Of course it is, and I agree with you on both counts. But that is why I was "singling out" the ones who seem to think God is going to make them the MVP in a game, as opposed to those for whom I have nothing but absolute respect.

- Jack

 

Why is the line :
real Christians who care for humanity

Why can't it be: real people caring for their fellow man ?

To see this as poking at our collective conscientiousness, it should have been void of a religious reference, which the title is not.

To add the disclaimer, I am not a Christian, I am one of those other "false religions" as the saying goes by specific groups of people.

 

Exactly.

 

Can we get an animated version of the first "beating a dead horse" or maybe just the whole video? Never saw that episode. I sometimes laugh and the simple humor but get a kick out of the higher level jokes they have.

Because Christian humanity is significantly smaller than the entire human race...it is cheaper that way.

I think that one reason those areas are so messed up is because of unqualified volunteers. I know many people who went with their church to Africa to "help" and none of them knew about anything. They didn't have a clue about basic plumbing, electrical, or anything mechanical for that matter. They also didn't have any knowledge of the local language and didn't have the skills to even teach a person to play blackjack! When they came back it seemed like they spent more time sight seeing and drinking beer than helping the people who needed it.

X2 (and out of respect for people who get their feeling hurt easily, I'll leave it at that.)

 

Judging from the poor malnourished child in Habs' picture it looks as if he comes from a country with Muslim as the main religion. I wonder why no Muslim groups help those who suffer from lack of food or water?

It's easier to just pick on the Christians.

 

So true. For the few here that hate religion, they sure seem to only concentrate on one particular form of it, don't they?

 

That they do, and is why I posted the beating the dead horse image. They won't understand that though.

 

Read here about aid from Muslim groups to the people of Somalia

http://www.muslimaid.org/index.php/a...e-work/somalia

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/af...alia_oic.shtml

I'd also suggest that you look up the practice of Zakat.

Zakāt is one of the Five Pillars of Islam, it is the giving of a fixed portion of one's wealth to charity, generally to the poor and needy.

 

Now look up some Christian and Pagan charities.

 

What for?

Obviously there are Christian based charities as are there others that have no religious affiliation whatsoever.

You were wondering why there were no Muslim based charities and I pointed you in the direction of some.

Bottom line: I don't see your point.

 

Sorry, I should have put in more context. The way I interpreted the picture in the original posting, and thus the subject of this thread, I believe it was referring to the classic question "the problem of evil" -- namely, if God exists and is all-powerful and all-benevolent, how can He/She allow such suffering, as illustrated in the third picture, to occur. I'm not saying I have the answer to that question, or whether indeed anyone has the answer, only that the question itself has been debated by philosophers for centuries.

 

Just as I don't see yours.

 

Sure why shouldn't we? I think there is a lot of value in caring about our fellow human beings? As long as there is some return or reward for me. I would help that little malnourished child if I could because I can imagine myself in that situation. But if I send my money to Feed the Children I think that none of it will feed anyone and I despise being robbed by charities.

We are a selfish species and I say that as an objective observer. Everything everyone does is centered on "my needs". If I give to the poor, I don't just give and not expect a return on "my investment". To conceal that fact makes me a liar. No one gives away something dear to them and doesn't expect anything in return in this life or the next.

If I had ALL the money and I was the king of this world I would have enough resources to feed that malnourished kid. But I'm not. I am a member of the working poor. I have little and I am useless at the end of a day of stress.

I care about the poor and I tell others that I care about the poor. I do that because I believe that to ignore the needs of the poor leads to ruin for those who ignore them. There is my self-centered reason for caring for those less fortunate that I am at this moment.

What's in it for me is not a bad attitude it's an honest attitued.

Dave

 

I know you guys think I hate Christian's but that's not true.
It's the phony Christian's (which there's no shortage of around here) who I take issue with.

I won't mention any names because that wouldnt be cool but if you've ever said "Nuke the middle east" ot "turn it into a parking lot", then you are a phony Christian.

In the other thread where I brought up the hypocracy of the shooter on Oslo, all one has to do is search the Ft Hood threads and read the reactions from the Christians on this forum, then come back and tell me how I'm wrong for thinking the way I do.

That might be my next fun project, quote the 'best of' quotes from the ft Hood threads to prove my point.

 

You can't seriously expect us to defend posts from a month ago!
None of us are tracking our meds that closely.