Moving up to 4.10 gears
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03-01-2001, 01:23 PM
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To install your own gears you need several specialized tools and general experience setting up gears. There's many websites you can search that show installations on mainly Mustang 8.8" rears. They show the pinion bearing removal and install, shimming, and gear patterns. This is not a good job for a beginner. You will have to post your year and engine to get advice on the speedo and your gear size as well (the 5.4L models use a 9.75" rear). Several companies make gears in this same price range; yes, the Ford Performance Products gears are nice and fairly priced. Since this is a 4X4, I take it you mean $300, or so, labor PER AXLE ??
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2000 F-150 XL, RC, LB, 5.4L, 4R70W, 3.55LS,
Class III tow, Payload #3, & Convenience pkgs.,
4-wheel disc/ABS, Chestnut/Parchment 40/60,
Ford bedliner w/Paintsaver & gas/wheel/spare locks,
K&N F.I.P.K. w/Outwears pre-filter, Superchip,
Dynomax ultra-flow welded 3" cat-back w/ 3" Y-pipe,
Hellwig front & rear anti-sway bars, Rancho RS 9000s,
Mobil 1, K&N oil filter.
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03-01-2001, 09:59 PM
Like Max said- it's really not a DIY job unless you have some experience.
If you can get someone competent to install the gears for $300, then I recommend paying the money. The shops that quoted me a price said 8 hrs to do the front gears and 4 to do the rear. Don't forget that you'll need two install kits, fluid, friction modifier if you have LS, and, depending on the wear, new bearings.
Gears can probably be purchased for less than $180. Front ring & pinion are "reverse cut" and may cost slightly more than the rear. If you don't have limited-slip, now is the time to add it.
When I had 4.10s installed in the Expedition last year, the entire cost (including Auburn LS) was around $1500. If you already have LS, then knock off about $350. Gears are a great mod, but they aren't cheap.
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If you can get someone competent to install the gears for $300, then I recommend paying the money. The shops that quoted me a price said 8 hrs to do the front gears and 4 to do the rear. Don't forget that you'll need two install kits, fluid, friction modifier if you have LS, and, depending on the wear, new bearings.
Gears can probably be purchased for less than $180. Front ring & pinion are "reverse cut" and may cost slightly more than the rear. If you don't have limited-slip, now is the time to add it.
When I had 4.10s installed in the Expedition last year, the entire cost (including Auburn LS) was around $1500. If you already have LS, then knock off about $350. Gears are a great mod, but they aren't cheap.
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1997 4x4 Expedition- 4.6L, true dual exhaust w/Ravin DI/DO, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, Edelbrock shocks, 285/75R16 BFG ATs, 2000 F150 "XLT" wheels, 4.10 gears, Auburn LS, Clarion In-dash CD player, Smitty Bilt push bars and nerf bars.
2000 4x4 F250 SD XLT SuperCab SWB- 6.8L, Offroad Pkg, Camper Pkg, 4.30LS, Tape & CD player, Remote Keyless Entry, Sliding back glass, tinted windows, 265/75R16 OWL tires, Smittybilt nerf bars & Line-X bedliner.
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03-02-2001, 12:40 AM
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Moving up to 4.10 gears
Has anybody ever installed their own gears and if so was it a hard job. I have a 4x4 with the stock 17" wheels and tires. What gear will I have to get to correct the speedo? It looks like it will save me about $300 if I can do this myself. Also, I will need to get the 8.8 4.10's correct? Ford motorsport has the gears at $180.00 per set. Is that reasonable or can I find them cheaper? Let me know if anyone has any advice.