~gear question - 2011 ecoboost~

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 10-24-2011, 04:34 PM
McCobra's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
~gear question - 2011 ecoboost~

just 6" lifted my 11 ecoboost and have a question about gearing. If i were to regear for ease on the tranny and possibly a little better gas, what gear should i go with? The truck came stock with 3:55s and my stock tires were 275-55r20. new tires are 35x12.50x20. 275-55 are 31.91 inches tall

I did a calculation of percentage increase in tire, times the current gear size, and came up with 3.90s for the new gear. (35/31.91=1.10% 1.10%x3.55=3.90)


so is this calculation correct and what gear would be most efficient in bringing back to stock feel. recomendations? thanks in advance
 

Last edited by McCobra; 10-24-2011 at 04:37 PM.
  #2  
Old 10-24-2011, 04:52 PM
glc's Avatar
glc
glc is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Joplin MO
Posts: 43,205
Received 763 Likes on 706 Posts
Now that they have a 6 speed auto, the need for regearing is a lot less than it used to be. I doubt you can get the gas mileage any better, the folks with EB's with 3.15 gears are getting better mileage than anyone else. What's going to help more than anything is when someone comes out with a programmer that works on the EB so you can correct the vehicle speed. It's not the gears that's causing the loss in "feel", it's the wind resistance and heavier rolling weight.
 
  #3  
Old 10-24-2011, 05:58 PM
McCobra's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by glc
Now that they have a 6 speed auto, the need for regearing is a lot less than it used to be. I doubt you can get the gas mileage any better, the folks with EB's with 3.15 gears are getting better mileage than anyone else. What's going to help more than anything is when someone comes out with a programmer that works on the EB so you can correct the vehicle speed. It's not the gears that's causing the loss in "feel", it's the wind resistance and heavier rolling weight.
i knew that was gonna be a big factor too, i just didn't want to be putting an extra large strain on the tranny. thought a regear may help. planning on keeping this one for a while.
 
  #4  
Old 10-24-2011, 07:21 PM
glc's Avatar
glc
glc is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Joplin MO
Posts: 43,205
Received 763 Likes on 706 Posts
I don't think you would be putting a strain on the tranny - being that they ARE available with 3.15's and 1st gear in the 6 speed is a stump puller to begin with.
 
  #5  
Old 10-24-2011, 08:25 PM
mSaLL150's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 7,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
If you regear I wouldn't go higher than 4.10 with 35s on the new 6 speed.
 
  #6  
Old 10-25-2011, 12:33 AM
glc's Avatar
glc
glc is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Joplin MO
Posts: 43,205
Received 763 Likes on 706 Posts
And 3.73's aren't worth the expense.
 
  #7  
Old 10-25-2011, 02:17 AM
ak_cowboy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Alaska
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by mSaLL150
If you regear I wouldn't go higher than 4.10 with 35s on the new 6 speed.
x2
 

Trending Topics

  #8  
Old 10-25-2011, 08:52 PM
Galaxy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,293
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Your math is correct, so 4.10 is the way to go. With what you're wanting to accomplish, you want to get as close as you can to your target (3.90), but then select the next lowest gear that gets you close to your target, not higher (which would be 3.73). Although I have no e-boost experience, the principles are the same, thus I slightly disagree with GLC. Based on my own learning experience, it's amazing what a gear swap will fix. Regardless of what the truck/tranny will make up for, it's still not a "recovery" of the performance (no matter how minimal) you've lost to taller tires. Gears is the only way to recover that. Yes, tuners in the right hands with the rights settings are incredible, but it's a band-aid when used to cover gearing loss.

Look at it this way...imagine a tuner WITH gears (starting from stock performance instead of from a handicapped situation) instead of the tuner having to "make up" for lost gearing.

I will never go with taller tires on my next truck without budgeting for gears at the same time...but that's just me.
 
  #9  
Old 10-26-2011, 01:10 AM
glc's Avatar
glc
glc is offline
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Joplin MO
Posts: 43,205
Received 763 Likes on 706 Posts
Disagree if you want, but have you ever owned a truck with a 4.17 low gear? Your 4R70 has a 2.40 low gear.
 
  #10  
Old 10-26-2011, 02:33 AM
ak_cowboy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Alaska
Posts: 1,476
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by glc
Disagree if you want, but have you ever owned a truck with a 4.17 low gear? Your 4R70 has a 2.40 low gear.
but the trucks with the 3.15 gears have a lower tow rating and are slower to accelerate. besides, who wants to slow their truck down?
 
  #11  
Old 10-26-2011, 09:59 AM
Galaxy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,293
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by glc
Disagree if you want, but have you ever owned a truck with a 4.17 low gear? Your 4R70 has a 2.40 low gear.
George, I'm in no way disagreeing with you that it's an extremely capable truck and tranny; night and day from what I'm driving. I'm just making the point that regardless of what's in front of the driveshaft, adding taller tires starts you at a handicapped position vs a level playing field. Two guys with identiacl trucks and 35" tires; one with gears returing the truck to a stock-ish rpm range and the other did not re-gear. Add an identical tuner to both. Who has the advantage? Is it required or near as critical as on the older trucks?? Absolutely not, but it's still a handicap.
 
  #12  
Old 10-26-2011, 03:25 PM
mSaLL150's Avatar
Technical Article Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Northern California
Posts: 7,862
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Look at it this way...imagine a tuner WITH gears (starting from stock performance instead of from a handicapped situation) instead of the tuner having to "make up" for lost gearing.
Definitely. I have both and its far stronger than when it was 100% stock.
 
  #13  
Old 10-26-2011, 05:15 PM
McCobra's Avatar
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2009
Posts: 50
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
well i dont think itd be worth the money just to go to 3.73s at all. so itd have to be 4.10s if i was going to do it. thanks for all the info!!. appreciate it
 
  #14  
Old 10-26-2011, 05:20 PM
Galaxy's Avatar
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 4,293
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by McCobra
well i dont think itd be worth the money just to go to 3.73s at all. so itd have to be 4.10s if i was going to do it. thanks for all the info!!. appreciate it
No, you're absolutely right. That would be almost downright stupid. But 3.73's isn't even your best choice. You'd want 4.10's anyways...which would most definately be worth it. I went from 3.55's to 4.10's and to this day, still kick myself for waiting so long.
 



Quick Reply: ~gear question - 2011 ecoboost~



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:33 PM.