I'm looking at the K&N Generation II intake, but I read a lot about the icemean systems here. Could someone compare them for me?

 

In giving the comparison, I am doing just that here, giving you the comparison betwwen the 2.

The K&N FIPK is a replacement T/B elbow that has a MAFS adapter plate and a larger then stock cone filter with a chrome plate in the end of it.
No heat shield, open filter element, and a mounting bracket that holds the T/B elbow.
Elbow is a ABS type of plastic ( don't know which type it is specific ABS poloymer, etc )

The Iceman also has a replacement T/B elbow which differes from the K&N in the area of the tube size from the filter to the T/B is a horn shape. The T/B end is the size of the T/B opening, where the K&N uses a reducer ( ~ 1" ) to get to the size of the T/B.
The Iceman Elbow attaches to the stock air cleaner housing and uses a stock size filter, replaced with a cleanable element.
The fender opening is changed on the stock housing to a 3" rubber tube, that is stuck into the fender opening, removing the stock draw tube.
Elbow is also ABS type of plastic.

The generic terms for the Open element vs the closed element filter:

The open element has the ability to flow more air due to a larger filter surface, and more available air to draw from ( 360* around the filter ) but the engine compartment heat give the intake air less density due to being hot.

The closed element filter is drawing in more dense air from the fender but can only draw what the filte size and the source point can allow. Less filter surface and a 3" round hole are the draw points.

I tried to give you a comparison without an opinion, if you were looking for an opinion on which is better let me know. and I can post some info on that as well. Don't know if comparison was between the 2 designs, or if you wanted a comparison on which is better ( what I call an opinion not a comparison ).

Steve

 

I actually was looking for more of an opinion, I'm glad you gave me that comparsion though. I've always enjoyed machanics but I'm just now being able to check some of it out with my own truck so I try to pick up any bit of information I can. So yeah I guess give me your opinion. Oh yeah, I may have listed the wrong intake, but the K&N does have a heat shield. I do appreciate the help and the knowledge.

 

my vote is the Air Force One intake system. A few guys have done tests, and the open air setups vs. ones with a heat shield don't make all that much of a difference, and nothing you'd notice a seat of pants gain with, cuz once you are moving even slowly, the air temp cools down alot going into the intake.

The reason i like the AF1 the most is 1. its polished stainless steel tube (chrome) and has the best bling factor out of them all
2. its got one of the biggest filters to suck more air. Unlike the K&N where the end of the filter is capped off where it faces the hole in the fender, the AF1 intake has the end of the filter element opened up and not just capped off so the air blowing right in through the fender hole goes right into the filter

Pics in my gallery if you never seen the AF1 before

o yeah, i noticed a definate increase in power when i put it on

 

surfnpaty,

Ok you asked for it

The K&N as of JAN-03 did not have a heat shield on it :
https://www.f150online.com/galleries...1916-44078.jpg
K&N has talked about changing this, but I hve not seen a release of it as of yet. To be completly honest the heat shield don't do squat.
The enclosed air intake type that uses the stock air cleaner housing is limited by the size of the fender opening, and the filter surface of the stock element. Even with the types that use a 3" tube to the fender the stock filter still has lower flow rates at the MAFS then the K&N.
I did a intake that ROUSHFAN-1 had with the JLP Air Ram air box, and dual 3" brake duct hoses, and it had higher Flow rates then the K&N.
https://www.f150online.com/galleries...1916-44079.jpg
After I read an article at AFM, I checked my AutoTap logs, and found in the under 50 mph area, the 5 sided air box from JLP had lower MAFS flow rates then the same filter less the 5 sided box.
So what I have come full circle to is a intake that is very similar to the AF1. The 12" long filter with the pleats on the end of it, open element, and the dual 3" brake duct hoses feeding it. I changed out the JLP air Ram air box for a Accufab MAFS adapter plate, and mounted the filter on the end of the MAFS.
I don't know if the AF1 had the same flow rate as the config I have now, but on the surface it looks to be very similar.
I guess the same could be said for the eBay FIPK, but the filter looks to be slightly shorter then the AF1 filter. I am guessing at the size of the filter on the AF1, maybe ask someone else who has one, how long it is.
The moral of the story, the larger the filter surface ( including the pleats in the end of it ) and the more area you have to draw air from, the better off you are.
I cannot say one way or another which of the setups is better for the T/B elbow, I have not checked them all, just quite a few.
BTW : WMS V-Tube or Iceman T/B elbow makes no difference using the G-Tech for what the MAFS is attached to. Using this, you could do the FIPK that JMC did, and instead of modifying the stock air cleaner housing, use a Accufab MAFS adapter plate and get a long filter on it.
Hope that makes sense, and sorry to be so long winded, but again you asked for an opinion. LOL.
Once I find my pictures of the current setup, I'll post them.

Let me know if you have any other questions on this

Steve

 

Its a good intake for a decent price. Looks sharp and installs easy. I have only had it for a few months so I dont know how well it will hold up in the summer heat, but so far I love it.

 

I really like my Iceman. I had the AirForce One before switching to the Iceman. The price is definitely good and it packs a great punch. When used in combonation with new exhaust setup is where you really get your gains as you can open up incoming and outgoing air.

 

...whoever wants to know, the length of the Airforce One filter is 9.0 inches, and the diameter of the fender end of the filter (pleated area) is 3.5 inches.

 

I vote Iceman, Towing and 4x4ing.

 

not sure yet though. Just got a flowmaster 40 series SI/DO, and want an air intake. I saw someone with an Iceman that put the factory cover back over the filter to prevent dust from getting in. Didnt look great, but smart. I like that so might get an Iceman.
I just got my truck, so I dont kno about the install. Is it easy? I wont screw anything up doing it my self will I?

THanks

 

I just installed an Iceman. I'm a novice and it was pretty easy to install. Go to ice-man.com for pictures. If you're into looks I think the AF1 and K&N looks better than the Iceman but for $60 difference I can live with it.

As for performance I've noticed that the tranny isn't shifting as much going up hills. How much gain I'm not sure but I do think it helps. I'll know if my MPG increase in a few weeks after I run a few tanks of gas.

 

I read that u switched from a AF1 to an Iceman. Why did u do that?? I am very interested in hearing why u did. I am going to order an AF1 in the next few minutes so i guess it will be too late by the time i read your reply. But i still wanna know y. This is the first dissatisfied customer i have heard of that has had the AF1. The only reason i have waited so long to get an intake is because most of them use the oil on the filters that screw up the MAF sensor. But i have decided to go ahead and give it a shot. Thanks

 

Where can I buy a Iceman intake from?
I have a F150, 5.4L, 4x4 supercab, magnaflow dual exhaust

 

I wasn't happy with the AF1, because I didn't notice any difference in torque, power, etc. Not to say that it isn't a good product, it just didn't work for me. I have definitely noticed a difference in the Iceman. I can spin my tires now from a stop...never could do that with the AF1. It's probably all in my head, but perception is reality. I also like the Iceman because of its durability. It's impossible do den or ding, unlike the AF1. I've also noticed that the Iceman tube is much cooler than the AF1. Also, towing is really great...much better takeoff's.

I bought mine for $166. from www.genxmuscle.com and was very happy with the service. It took only about 40 minutes to install.

 

Thats the last thing i wanted to hear. I should have read closer to the guarantee i hope there is one, if u dont like it can u send it back?? The ice man is way cheaper i didnt realize that, i thought they were all about alike in price. All the ones i have been looking at have been priced really tightly between 200 and 250. Now i am not looking so forward to getting it