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I've tried out the Diablo program a couple times but always seem to pull the chip for one reason or another (usually because my hubby runs out of chips & needs one to sell before his next shipment comes in). As far as I know they still only have 1 program for the Woods since I really haven't been able to test it out thuroughly to request changes to it. I did run my 16.16 with it in. I plan to put it back in for the weekend (out at the track on Sat) & see how long I can keep it in before it gets taken away again. 
Maybe I'll even see a new best since its supposed to be in the 50s.
Maybe I'll even see a new best since its supposed to be in the 50s.
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It was dynoed with the chip in it (as well as a modified JLP ram-air kit) however I have to wait till I get home to tell you the numbers. It seemed pretty easy to install. My hubby installed it but I made him show me how to do it in case I needed to pull it out while I was out by myself.
I don't want to discuss pricing online (since I'm not a supporting vendor) but you can email me (candlekaty@comcast.net) & I can give you more details about that end of it (my hubby burns his own chips).
Edit: I think bill is running a different brand chip. Last I heard he was happy with his set-up.
I don't want to discuss pricing online (since I'm not a supporting vendor) but you can email me (candlekaty@comcast.net) & I can give you more details about that end of it (my hubby burns his own chips).
Edit: I think bill is running a different brand chip. Last I heard he was happy with his set-up.
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One thing I have learned!!!
Hi folks:
I have learned never to recommend a chip or other mod as it can get into a real food fight.
In my case, I have modded a '99 Lightning since sold and my 02 Blackwood which is one of the more satisfactory vehicles I have driven in the last 10 years or so.
For the moment, I am running a Superchips flip chip which I believe is actually programmed for the Navigator version of the engine/tranny combination we have. I am not sure of this, so please don't take my word for it. My induction system is an AirForceOne which is basically a tube running off the original intake into a conical open filter. I also have a locally made up exhaust which is basically running off the original pipe into a muffler which has dual outlets (single muffler) and then I have two pipes going out to two dual tips equally spaced under the bumper.
The chip I have has a "street mode" which is basically set up to run on normal 91/92 octane gas and a "better mode" which is set up to take advantage of 93 or more octane gas which is very hard to come by in metro Atlanta.
Even though I can get 93+ octane, I have found that this particular chip is more than enough for me on the softer setting. Bear in mind that the 32 valve motor takes a bit of time to come up on the cams and you don't build a lot of power below around 3000 rpms.
The chip that I have, along with the filter and exhaust allows me to enjoy some pretty impressive seat of the pants take offs and it is a real pleasure to hear a chirp from the tires in the 1/2 shift on the street program.
As the vehicle is rather expensive, I rarely, if ever, use the high performance side of the chip because the shifts are absolutely rock hard and I don't know if they add to the sort of performance profile.
In the final analysis, there are not going to be very many standard chip profiles for a truck that only had a production run of some 3,200 units. You will have to go with a Navigator program or spend the bucks to get a custom burn which may not be a bad idea in my opinion.
Bill
I have learned never to recommend a chip or other mod as it can get into a real food fight.
In my case, I have modded a '99 Lightning since sold and my 02 Blackwood which is one of the more satisfactory vehicles I have driven in the last 10 years or so.
For the moment, I am running a Superchips flip chip which I believe is actually programmed for the Navigator version of the engine/tranny combination we have. I am not sure of this, so please don't take my word for it. My induction system is an AirForceOne which is basically a tube running off the original intake into a conical open filter. I also have a locally made up exhaust which is basically running off the original pipe into a muffler which has dual outlets (single muffler) and then I have two pipes going out to two dual tips equally spaced under the bumper.
The chip I have has a "street mode" which is basically set up to run on normal 91/92 octane gas and a "better mode" which is set up to take advantage of 93 or more octane gas which is very hard to come by in metro Atlanta.
Even though I can get 93+ octane, I have found that this particular chip is more than enough for me on the softer setting. Bear in mind that the 32 valve motor takes a bit of time to come up on the cams and you don't build a lot of power below around 3000 rpms.
The chip that I have, along with the filter and exhaust allows me to enjoy some pretty impressive seat of the pants take offs and it is a real pleasure to hear a chirp from the tires in the 1/2 shift on the street program.
As the vehicle is rather expensive, I rarely, if ever, use the high performance side of the chip because the shifts are absolutely rock hard and I don't know if they add to the sort of performance profile.
In the final analysis, there are not going to be very many standard chip profiles for a truck that only had a production run of some 3,200 units. You will have to go with a Navigator program or spend the bucks to get a custom burn which may not be a bad idea in my opinion.
Bill
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Bill,
Thank you for the advice and comments!
I've been very pleased with my wood and plan on keeping it for a very long time. You bring up a good point in that our engine is the same set-up as the Navigator. It sounds like you've done the right mods to sqeeze out more performance from this excellent engine. I'll definately keep im mind all the things you've said as I go forward with my mods.
Thank you for the advice and comments!
I've been very pleased with my wood and plan on keeping it for a very long time. You bring up a good point in that our engine is the same set-up as the Navigator. It sounds like you've done the right mods to sqeeze out more performance from this excellent engine. I'll definately keep im mind all the things you've said as I go forward with my mods.
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vman:
I think you will find this a very friendly and helpful bunch of Blackwood owners, if a bit scarce on the ground.
Katy and Rob have perhaps the best way to go for a custom chip insofar as they own a Blackwood (well Katy does) and Rob has experience in the field. Got to cut the commercial here
While I only frequent 3 boards that have Blackwood owners on them and may have missed something, I have not seen many owners/drivers who have been looking to improve the performance. Lots of practical add-ons and a few appearance items but little all out performance stuff. For instance, I had earlier posted that I added deflectors on all four door windows and the sunroof and purchased a stainless steel grille and chin "cover". Jim in Texas installed the Harley exhaust and runningboard steps or whatever you call it.
One of the trucking magazines did an article about a year ago on a Paxton supercharged Blackwood. Can't find it now but you can do a search on here for my report. I think it cut a couple of seconds off the 1/4 but as I recall the whole package cost about $8k which is too rich for my blood for two seconds.
I believe it was on this board that a fellow somewhere down here (Alabama I think) installed an Eaton blower as a one off custom job for a customer. Never did tell us how it worked out as I remember.
To close for today, I would urge you to consider at least some sort of intake system mod. If nothing else, the sound is worth the $2-300 you would spend. Not like a Lightning with an open intake but very impressive nonetheless especially from about 3,000 to 5,000 revs.
Bill
I think you will find this a very friendly and helpful bunch of Blackwood owners, if a bit scarce on the ground.
Katy and Rob have perhaps the best way to go for a custom chip insofar as they own a Blackwood (well Katy does) and Rob has experience in the field. Got to cut the commercial here
While I only frequent 3 boards that have Blackwood owners on them and may have missed something, I have not seen many owners/drivers who have been looking to improve the performance. Lots of practical add-ons and a few appearance items but little all out performance stuff. For instance, I had earlier posted that I added deflectors on all four door windows and the sunroof and purchased a stainless steel grille and chin "cover". Jim in Texas installed the Harley exhaust and runningboard steps or whatever you call it.
One of the trucking magazines did an article about a year ago on a Paxton supercharged Blackwood. Can't find it now but you can do a search on here for my report. I think it cut a couple of seconds off the 1/4 but as I recall the whole package cost about $8k which is too rich for my blood for two seconds.
I believe it was on this board that a fellow somewhere down here (Alabama I think) installed an Eaton blower as a one off custom job for a customer. Never did tell us how it worked out as I remember.
To close for today, I would urge you to consider at least some sort of intake system mod. If nothing else, the sound is worth the $2-300 you would spend. Not like a Lightning with an open intake but very impressive nonetheless especially from about 3,000 to 5,000 revs.
Bill
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10-03-2003, 10:21 AM
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Originally posted by Bill Murray
While I only frequent 3 boards that have Blackwood owners on them and may have missed something, I have not seen many owners/drivers who have been looking to improve the performance.
While I only frequent 3 boards that have Blackwood owners on them and may have missed something, I have not seen many owners/drivers who have been looking to improve the performance.
I only go for performance mods first because they're cheaper. Otherwise I would have started with new wheels & rims, then exhaust.BTW, vman you have mail.
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Bill,
The Blackwood owners are really cool and I'm very happy to have found this site. I know that I'm not going to be able to spend too much money on the performance upgrades. My BOSS a.k.a wife unit, will put a spending cap on me very soon. I think that I can justify to her the performance chip and air filter but beyond that I don't know. The intake thing sounds like it might be something I could squeeze in also.
Here is a like to my friends web site, he has done alot of mods to his Mustang and is constantly getting it Dyno'd. I talked with him this morning and he showed me the dyno'd results with a Diablo chip in and out of his stang.
http://www.allenmorrison.net
Thanks Bill and Katy!
rdy2rac, thanks for the email, I have sent a response back.
The Blackwood owners are really cool and I'm very happy to have found this site. I know that I'm not going to be able to spend too much money on the performance upgrades. My BOSS a.k.a wife unit, will put a spending cap on me very soon. I think that I can justify to her the performance chip and air filter but beyond that I don't know. The intake thing sounds like it might be something I could squeeze in also.
Here is a like to my friends web site, he has done alot of mods to his Mustang and is constantly getting it Dyno'd. I talked with him this morning and he showed me the dyno'd results with a Diablo chip in and out of his stang.
http://www.allenmorrison.net
Thanks Bill and Katy!
rdy2rac, thanks for the email, I have sent a response back.
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Originally posted by Bill Murray
vman:
One of the trucking magazines did an article about a year ago on a Paxton supercharged Blackwood. Can't find it now but you can do a search on here for my report. I think it cut a couple of seconds off the 1/4 but as I recall the whole package cost about $8k which is too rich for my blood for two seconds.
Bill
vman:
One of the trucking magazines did an article about a year ago on a Paxton supercharged Blackwood. Can't find it now but you can do a search on here for my report. I think it cut a couple of seconds off the 1/4 but as I recall the whole package cost about $8k which is too rich for my blood for two seconds.
Bill
Paxton SC Blackwood