Has anyone tried this brake upgrade package. Looks to be a nice kit at a reasonable price. Just curious if anyone has tried it and what they thought of it.


http://www.tceperformanceproducts.co...Lightning.html

 

So for roughly $1800, you can get slotted and drilled brake package. About half the cost of a new blower.
It might be a worth while invested in the braking dept

 

I have not tried this kit, but it looks perfect. I have always thought that there was an untapped need for a reasonably priced (<$2K) Lightning brake system. Wilwood parts cost less than Brembos and should provide about the same performance.

I picked up some used 14" Brembos for about $2K, bit if I hadn't already, I would jump on the TCE kit.

 

We have been using Wilwood brakes on our race cars for years.They are a quality brake set-up.I will probaly be investing in this.

VINNIE

 

Hmmmm looks like we'll eventually have enough ppl in the NJ area to do a brake upgrade shootout this summer.

 

 

Could be a very good option. A bit of advise before you buy. Compare all the kits out right now. Brembo, Stop-Tech, and now this one. Compare each piece of hardware (example: Brembo 4-piston caliper piston size 42mm & 40mm in the F50 unit, Stop-Tech uses 4/ea 44mm pistons). What is the piston size in these Wilwood's? Not down playing Wilwood, they make a great product. Just make sure you compare apples to apples in the caliper size. Also look at the size of the pad's surface area. Are the pads unique to the manufacturer (read expensive, hard to get)? Stainless hardware to connect the rotor to the hats is a big red flag to me. The stainless fasteners have an ultimate tensile strength of 90,000ksi (depending upon material). Plated alloy steel that the others use has a tensile of 180,000ksi minimum. Details can make a difference. Do your home work.

 

I agree with Silver bolt. You need to compare what tyrp of rotor?Wilwood makes them from 29 bucks to over 250 ea.Hardware is important are they drilled for safety wire?Lock tighted?Lock nut? Is the rotor a 'floating' rotor or hard bolted to the hat?Brakes is one area NOT to get cheap with.I think he has a good product but need to check farther to make sure.Stan

 

Looks alright for a medium priced kit. I don't think its a direct compare to what Brembo or StopTech offer... The bore size on differential SuperLite III's is either 47/44 or 44/41 and can handle a 31mm disc .. they go for about $200 on their own... I don't know what pads.

The GNIII substitue uses 6" GrandNational pads, weighs 6lbs and is a 6-pistion caliper...goes for about $350 on its own....

My RX7 buddy wasn't happy with his Wilwoods (switched to AP), but he had the SuperLites, had problems with chatter...the GNIII are the better caliper.

No idea about their rotors though.

Daniel

 

Should you want to spend the money, I can give you a thumb's up on the AP Racing 6 piston set up.

https://www.f150online.com/galleries...3038-40413.jpg

 

Hey Brake guys. Thanks for all the info.This is what this board is all about.

VINNIE

 

Hello gentlemen.

I received a couple of emails from this thread and decided I better come over, say hello, answer some questions and inquire about some ads to keep the moderators happy. All in due time I'm sure. I'd like to request that they allow this post to remain and I'll keep the 'sell' down.

The kits you see now on my web site are certainly new to the market, but my work is not.

The calipers used are based on Wilwood Superlite series and for now only include the SLIII and GNIII offerings. The other such as the BSL6 simply have too little piston area. The SLIIIs are based on 1.88/1.75 sizing and are ample to do the job.

The question about hardware has been blown out of proportion a bit in my mind. The rotor to hat bolts are in fact SS shcs. I won't argue bolt tensile strengths etc. with folks, yes some are stronger than others, some more ductile etc. etc. Certainly the use of the NAS bolts on one kit are very nice and could be substituted here. Keep in mind that kit has eight bolts I believe, where as mine is in twelve bolt configuration. I've used these same bolts (love 'em or hate 'em) in kits for over four years now on cars such as the Chevy Impala SS, and others. These are ALL in eight bolt form. We have never had a problem with them.

I'm not foolish enough to suggest that you cannot improve upon a product. Should someone wish to add their own bolt package to this it can be done.

All the other bolts and such are grade 8 parts. I didn't use any aluminum bolts or hollow ones on this. I save that for my car!

In respecting the site and to keep the peace I'd prefer not to make much more comment on the kit as a whole until I get further info from the 'advertising department' to keep them happy.

I listed my web site upon registration, if the moderators would like to remove it from this post I understand, but please allow the rest to remain.

 

That was way to nice of a post. You're obviously notused to posting on Lightning message boards

Thanks for the info and what appears to bea good product. Only one question:

Anychance for a rear brake kit? Yes I know all the reasons it's not required, but I hate spending 2K and my back brakes looking neglected (it's simply a bling-bling thing)

Coldie

 

I agree, Todd. I bought some Brembos, but would not hesitate to buy your kit based on the hardware. Stainless, Grade 8, NAS, whatever. Strong enough is strong enough. Frankly, the thought of giving $100 to Brembo for a few rotor bolts boils my blood. Hats off to you for filling a market void for a reasonably priced Lightning brake setup. Hope it is profitable for you.

 

Tim if you need new rotor bolts let me know. If you need the complete mounting kit (bolts, inserts, spring retainers) Stop-Tech sells them for about $25.