Get a tuner that has multiple program chips, or get multiple chips...

 

Hey Sal, I didn't realize you were such a poet as well as a guy who knows his stuff about fast vehicles.
I got another one for ya.
"Lean is fast
but it can bite you in the a$$"
Feel free to use it.

 

LOL. Actually, I made one up years ago, that goes "Lean is mean, till your plugs turn green". Green meaning either coolant from a blown head gasket, or the green tinge from detonation, but I found most people don't pick up on that one .

 

HI Sal
Quick Question: You said at WOT the computer disregards the O2 sensors......what about the MAF? where does that play into things. And what about all this business of maxing it out to 5.0 volts?
If you are in open loop and running off of predetermined fuel and spark maps, why would the MAF matter.
Thanks Dale

 

Dam Iculokn,
Want to sell that chip

 

Contact Sal, he can give you my programs. You know what the sad thing is? Sal & Myself have never dyno tuned my truck... Like TEAM PSP said before, just wait till next year..... This year was a playing field.....

 

Dale, the PCM always looks at the MAF, it's the main input. The MAF is used to determine airlfow and load, which the PCM then uses to determine which parts of the fuel and timing tables to use. When you max the MAF voltage, you can no longer measure airflow past that point. So if your rpms continue to rise, you are continuing to add air to the motor, but no more fuel. That's a bad thing .

 

Sal
Thanks....Its making sense now
Dale

 

As i once mentioned in a thread here months ago between Beefcake and I regarding a/f's, i had brought up JJ's extreme lean programming that i witnessed in his own forums. If anyone is running his insane programs, i would seriously yank that chip right now. 12.0 is the leanest you want to go.

I had made a mention ealier today when they were trying to figure out whose chip blew the L up, im guessing it was JJ's...

 

Thats right on the money, honest and to the point.

 

ICULOKN,

Well I do not know about being "right on the money".

I have JJ's chip and never once had a problem with it. No detonation, no nothing. I ran my best time with his program on full weight . 13.1 chip and filter in my 99'. I really doubt anyone has had a problem with any of his chips.

His times are what many run with double the boost or more, even faster then some. Only #3lbs over. So something has to be right in his chip.

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Sal is the man and a great poet too! See you saturday Sal at Cecil.


Jesse

 

You can be lean & fast, thats for sure. You can also be lean with less timing and not ping. Anything over 12 on a A/F is very dangerous. I would rather make 1000 two or three tenth slower passes than 100 fast ones. Take it for what you want, it will come back to haunt you if you run over a 12.0 A/F ratio.... I to ran fast with only a 3lb lower on, as did many people. I ran 12.40's LAST YEAR like that(3lb, Chip, Plugs, Filter). Don's Bolt did do. Low boost power is NOTHING new.


Just always remember, when your the new parts guy, you do what it takes to make you look good, take that however you want...... The proff has been told many times....

 

I understand what you are saying.......

My AF was only 11.5 on race side.

I really doubt that anything over 12.0 is living on the edge. Maybe for awhile but in this range, it is usually on race side sometimes calling for race fuel. Not your everyday street program.


BTW JJ ran a 12.01 , when I see someone else run those times with 3Lbs over, I will congratulate them for a great run. As I have done to anyone running great times.

I think Sal has answered to the thread good enough. But you seem to have it for JJ and his programs. Only question I will ask you is ,

Do you know of anyone who has melted plugs, blew their motor etc....... with his programs?


Jesse

 

Yes I do. We can leave it like that.



BTW- A race program has nothing to do with it. Mine has a ton of timing but I still get a 11.2 A/F and run 100oct gas.

Its not personal, its people thinking they can do things they cant....