There is NO EXCUSE for the 2 attempts I made. My truck should clearly be in the hi 12's.


It was my first 1/4 attempt in over 20 years and it was in the mid 80's on bald F-1's. But there is a definate problem at WOT around 3/4 track, it seems to not be getting enough gas ??? It was going off and on, off and on, off and on ??? What the hell is that about ??? It felt like it was starving for gas, is that possible ???
I absolutly dusted a 427 Cobra "Kit Car" off the line, in the 60, half way, and then my Lightning seemed to run out of gas and he just caught me at the light.

I know I was a sleep at the wheel with my reaction time, but that doesn't effect the time right ??? And considering the F-1's, 1.9 60's arent the worse time in the world right ??? So why don't I have any top end speed, and why is it cutting out ??? Could be those dam TR6's I told you it runs rougher ever since I changed them. (only 400 miles ago)

HELP me out everybody ?? This is outright embarrassing.
I'm ready to order the juice tonight, I WANT 12's, AND I WANT THEM NOW

Rob

 

Rob, a surge like that is an indication of being too lean. If you want, we can hook up and either dyno tune, or street/track tune your truck with proper the A/F ratio. Your 60fts aren't that bad, but your MPH definitely shows your not making good power.

 

yeah, I ran a 13.5 and I don't have a chip or pulley! Either something is wrong, or you have serious traction problems.
Time for some drag radials, slicks and/or traction bars!

Better luck next time...

 

You got my attention Buddy,

I know your a busy man Sal but I would really Love to hook up with you. The funny part is, "it runs fine on the street" I never felt that before, but then again it's the first time I ever went to the track. I punched it a few times on the way home and gave it a one two blast from a roll and it was fine again ? Could it be starving for gas with my pulleys ??

 

Most problems like this occur in 3rd gear, after the 1/8 mile on the track. If you don't blast up to 100 on the street a lot, you'd not have noticed it. I will not be free until I get back from NMRA in KY, but after that, I have a dyno session with an 03 Cobra (I will be doing 03 Cobra stuff since I get a dozen calls a week for it) and you are more than welcome to join in, as is anyone else who wants to maybe make a dyno day of it.

 

Shouldn't his MPH be more like 105-107 to hit 12's?

 

I understand A/F, and how important it is. If it's not at an exceptable setting once on a Dyno, can it be adjusted right then and there ??? Or is another chip reburn needed ???

Let me know when this Dyno session is and tell me how to sign up, I'd love to get in on it, and possibly be 2nd right behind the 03 Cobra.

Good Luck in KY
Rob

 

Since you don't have an Autologic chip, if you want me to dyno tune your truck, you'd have to buy a chip from me. We can baseline your truck with your current chip, just to compare, and then I can tune your truck right there on the dyno. I do all the programming on the calibration, so I can make infinite adustments to any parameters right there on the spot.

 

Oh, I'm gonna get it(please Sal don't sic Lisa on me ), but isn't this a classic sign of a clogged fuel filter? Or am I wrong in that you're at WOT all the way down the track? I may have just discredited my own 'guess' .

Dan

 

Sal, where and when,I too I'm not happy with the performance of my truck. 2000, 11k miles, PRO-M 80, 9" cone filter,your 9" lower pulley (6lbs.)and single program chip. 9/7/02 Atco N.J. F1's 21psi.,60' 1.95, 2.00- 13.37 @102.78, 13.57@100.15. Where should I be with these mods, where can you get me with the mods I have . I'm considering 90mm and Fastair ,where will that get me. I also just got your valve body in the mail ,can you install it for me.

Thank's, Ray. (I'm coming from Philly)

vacationing 9/29- 10/5 Fla.

 

I would bet my next breath of air it was fuel related. But I may have had a few things working against me. Three people had a simular problem while running with a low fuel tank. (I had less than a quarter tank) I drove 35-40 minutes in mid 80 degree, straight to the starting line with NO COOL DOWN. Then
"STRAIGHT BACK" to the line for the 2nd run WITH NO COOL DOWN. That could have hurt ? I asked for "AND HAVE" an extremly safe tune. Only 1 to 2 degree's advance, and a low safe A/F setting. The TR6's "might" play a part, as most of you know from my earlier post's they effected my idle when I installed them. Tomorrow I'll pull a few and check them.

Sal, the reason I asked about the chip is because I already paid for and have another one coming (Diablo Delta) It's on the way (they just told me, I'll have it sometime in the next 3-4 days). I happen to be partial to Diablo and ordered it quite some time ago but asked them to take their time and do as much Dyno testing as possible. Lucky for me my Tunner has the same year truck, the same 6 LB'S of boost, the same 12" Hi-Flow Filter, the same weather, and same octane available for gas. I'll be stepping the timing up, and the A/F on the new program. My current program is perfect for the street and exactly what I asked for, but for the track days I'll need to step it up. I am however interested in converting my 12" Hi-Flow to the ""new"" ram air set up with the box, hose, and inlet scoop that doesn't require cutting out the inner fender. Johnny Lightning has them I know, do you have the NEW STYLE conversion kit's yet Sal ??? I know you sell the original conversion kit, you told me about it at the car show

So even know my L runs totally awesome on the street, this is a clear case of where you need a two program chip, so you can have a separate Race program, ESPECIALLY IF YOUR GONNA HAVE SUCH A SAFE CONSERVATIVE STREET PROGRAM LIKE I DO.

 

Umm, ok Rob, you can believe all that instead of believing me, I can take it I've only been doing this for over 8 years now, but what do I know .

Ray, you are welcome to join in on a dyno day. I'll be setting something up when we return from NMRA.

 

Rob I think I would utilize Sal since he is in the same state..Not to mention a dyno tune is worth TONS...It's your L and your money so obviousily your choice.. Good luck..

 

Damn man, who is your tuner?

Sounds to me like you need to hook up with Sal. I am sure he has been tuning Lightnings far longer than whoever you are dealing with.

G

 

Quote:
1st "?", how much gas did you have in the tank? Sometimes having less than a 1/4 or an 1/8 will cause the pumps (they are at the front of the tank) to starve under heavy acceleration. Not saying this was the problem, though, but in all out honesty I believe this may be the prob.
Quote 2:
Another thing I ran at the track once with less than a 1/4 of a tank of gas and it was causing the pumps to starve. All the gas went to the rear of the tank when I launched and the truck took off fine but then the pumps lost the fuel and it just died. How much fuel did you have?

Quote 3:
Check the fuel pump and filter. My .02$

Sal, I hope your kidding Dont be like that, I know you know your stuff, I know you want to help, and I know you got a 10 second beast. I drooled over it for hours talking to you at Bald Hill, remember. I want your help, we seem to never be able to hook up and we live so close to each other. I know it's time for me to get a little more aggresive with my program, I'd rather tune up and be safe, rather than be sorry. Here look at my stock plugs running my current Mod's, 6 Lbs of Boost and all. They were burning fine.

I wonder how the TR6's are running, I'll know tomorrow.
Buddy I'll come over tomorrow and hook up the computer, I told you that, I wish you would let me, but I don't need three chips, if there's a way for you to re-burn my current Diablo Single program I would glady do that. And if I can get in on the Dyno Run I aked How, and If I can get a conversion kit for my Air Induction I want to buy it now, just tell me what to do. I tried to buy my Pulley from you, I tried to get my plugs from you. Your a busy man, and I'm a nut case that has to have everything over nighted and in my hands before I realize I want it. So it just hasn't worked out with me and You "YET" maybe I'm saving the big one for You
But I look at you as a friend, please don't be upset, I'M TRYING. I know you have an extensive Ford background, I know you have the Awesome aftermarket Blower and Throttle Body your working on. Your original pulley design's, the only e-z install plated NOS, and many other wonders for my L (your design's). I ALWAYS BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU SAY TO ANYONE IN A POST INCLUDING ME. Maybe I explained what happen today wrong but it was there, clear as day and worse the 2nd run. I was at the track for less than a half hour. I was sooo pissed of the way it was running at WOT in 3rd that I left. The only thing I have to compare it with is an old Big Block Chevelle I ran when I was a teenager that would do the same thing 3/4 of the way down, it was starving for gas and felt simular. Drove me crazy, turned out to be the screen in the fuel tank was clogged (I call it a sock) I want to spend money with PSP, but somehow we got to hook up first. You know how I found my Tunner, I had that DEADLY abu2boo6k program that Someone else sold me. It would have ripped my transmission apart. He was the only one who offerd to re-burn it. His program turned out to be better AND FASTER than the current 3 I've tried and look how safe it is. Your programs are probaly awesome, no doubt, but I ordered my new one all the way back on

To :
"Robert Caruso" <rob3832@hotmail.com>

Subject :
Re: How much $$$

Date :
Sat, 31 Aug 2002 22:11:58 -0500

Rob, the Delta chip is.....