Well after much research I find myself somewhat frustrated that I have been mislead. I was told a new long block. New is New right? remanned is New ? Wrong? I get the feeling Ford is playing word games. I stopped by the dealers Sunday,today and found that there was indeed a long block sitting next to my Lightning. I looked in the garage through the rear door windows. Sitting just beside the door was the top of the shipping container I'm sure was on the other half that sits beneath the long block. On the container was a sticker saying "Fred Jones". I bought a cylinder head from Ford, A Fred Jones remanned head that was warped. I failed to check it because I had just paid in the neighborhood of $400. 00 for it. It leaked after installation. I pulled it..They ordered another. The thing was not pretty. Looked like a ranger head tapped for an oil return line for the bearing cooler on My 88 Xr4Ti Merkur. Ordered another. Put it on and sold the car. Junk metal. Was afraid it would come apart.
Anyway I was so happy to hear they had ordered a new motor I failed to investigate. Now I have and find mostly horror stories about Ford Quality Remanned Engines. Stuff that *hit the bed at least once already...maybe several times. The people who rebuild these things seem to be inept.
So..I plan on speaking with the zone rep tomorrow about a New Long Block. I know this will be a struggle but I think I need the exercise. At least a bumper to bumper warranty for say 100000 miles. They took My truck apart twice already. SO who knows what will shell out next. I had a crate engine inculding blower put in My last 99 and was pleased with it. Now a remanned motor that is said to have 24/24 warranty,parts and labor. I find this may be bull**** as well. Whta I have read states that you have to buy the motor over the counter to recieve the 24/24 protection. If replaced as a warranty fix you get the remainder of your factory warranty or 12/12. Which ever is greater. So..I must protest.
Anyone have any info to pass along?

Thanks....

 

Did you inspect the motor that was in the tote?

I had motor replaced on my 01 due to oil consumption and although my motor said reman it was actually new, I had verified this before they shipped it.

Also from what I understand AER is handling the reman of motors now and Fred Jones has basically been reduced to a transportation company for Ford's chemical and filter line as well as Ford's in house rebuilding program.

 

The Ford warrenty and policy manual states that any Ford vehicle 2 model years old and newer (01-02 for Lightnings) gets what's called a line motor. This is a motor that is brand new, sitting at the plant, waiting to go in a new vehicle. A line motor usually comes fully dressed, with all covers, manifolds, harnesses, and on the Lightning, even the blower.

Any model year older than 2 years, gets a reman long block. Where those come from is based on location. I have never used Fred Jones reman stuff, out here on the east coast, the reman parts come from Hesco, and are usually great parts.

As for what you got, I can say that I think Ford may be out of line motors right now. I say this because two local owners had their motors replaced by a freind of mine at the local dealer, and one was an 00 and the other an 01. The motor for the 00 came in right away (reman) but the 01 motor took a few weeks, and when it finally came in, it was a reman. Talking to my buddy, it seems they tried to get him a line motor, and couldn't. BTW, both of these trucks which now have reman motors, run stronger than they prevously had before, and the owners are very happy.

Hope this helps.

 

My motor was replaced with a reman motor (the first motor that was replaced). This was in November, I waited 4 weeks for the motor to be in. The next I replaced.

 

One would sure hope that they ran better than the engines that needed replacing!

 

Well once again I have to say I was wrong. The block on the floor next to my truck was not mine. Today I went in and was speaking with the Tech and while there the new one arrived on a truck. It was in a cardboard box with a crate under it. It looked brand new but how could I be sure. It did have a sticker on it said FR not FQR.
The manifold was not on it. It had a new oil filter and what looked like a coolant runnner or some manifold runner..not really sure about this part. It was painted silver. The motor was wrapped up real nice in plastic..not visqueen. The tech thought it was new stating that all the remanned one's come in the plastic type shipping containers that have upper and lower sections. The service Manager swears it has a 24/24 warranty. Parts and labor.
No blower on this unit.
Still somewhat apprehensive but it did look brand new. I spoke with a parts hand at the nearest SVT dealer and he stated that Ford was still shipping the restickered New factory long blocks for the Lightning. He said he could sell me one for $2850. I think My dealership is claiming about $3500.00 for the one being installed in mine. I still paln to speak with the zone rep. About devaluation. Knowing anything collectable or limited edition should be bought with the original numbers matched engine. Dies this hold true?
Thanks for everyones comments.

 

Due to the large number of replacement Lightning engines, Ford may have chosen to change from a complete line motor, to just a new long block. Reman motors USUALLY come in black plastic cases, but not allways. We've gotten many remans in boxes. A reman motor will have a Ford Reman green and silver metal tag adhered to the block.

As for numbers matching, the engine ID tag in on the valve cover. So if they swap your valve covers to the new motor, theres really no way to tell the motor was not original.

 

Well..spoke with a Ford technical Rep at the dealer today. He claims the way to tell if the remanned taggged motors are actually new line motors is to look at the oil filter that is sent with the motor. It was laying in the valley. He showed me a small maybe 1/8 th inch yellow square. He stated that this yellow square denotes a Factory line engine and not remanned. He also says some of the filters may be colored garay and would also be a factory line motor that was sent out to the reman shop for retagging. Anyhow that is what he stated. He owned that red 99 that was sent to Europe and covered in one of the Magizines. He sold it and it was listed on these pages a while back.

Anyhow the saga continues.

Spoke with a Service Manager at a local SVT dealer and he stated as did Sal that anything less than two years old gets a new line engine from the factory. He said Everything including supercharger and exhaust manifolds....He was surprised that the shop doing my work had not called the SVT tech line. He says that SVT does not like the returned motors to be tampered with. They supposedly check each one out that is replaced under warranty. Anyhow he siad to call him in the AM and he would see what SVT tech line says about My replacement longblock..he says they may send out a complete assembly..this guy has owned 3 Lightnings and currently owns a Black 01.

Will apprise the interested on progress..if any.

Later.