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Old May 10, 2002 | 08:14 PM
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Question Johnny Lightning Power Cooler and other modss?

I know how Richard (ICULOKN) feels about his powercooler, (loved it), sold by Johnny Lightning, but I want to know how you other guys feel about yours too.

Are there significant ET gains when using one? If so, how much did you gain? Has anybody dyno'd their truck or compared 1/8th or 1/4 mile times before and after a Powercooler installation?

Richard, your comments are more than welcome too.

Please help me decide whether to buy one or not.

I did a search and found no numbers to compare.

I've got to speed my truck up some and I'm weighing all options. I have Hoosier slicks now and Truck Tracs ordered. I'm considering a PI 2600 stall converter and a Powercooler. There are other options out there, like single blade throttle bodies and electric fans and such also. I'm looking for the most bang for the buck at this point.

Any help will be appreciated greatly!!

Tim

My Mods "Chikenears" 2001 Lightning.

Superchip Flip Chip, J-49, J-69
4# JDM Caged Pulley
JDM Cold Air Intake Kit
JDM Long Tube Stainless Headers, High Flow Cats
Bassani Cat-back system
JDM Line Mod Valve
4X4 Transmission pan & filter/fluid pickup extension
Boost By-pass unplugged
Crankcase pressure breather cap
Denso Plugs
Truck Tracs
Hoosier 28X10X16 slicks, Ultra 51 wheels
3/2 Bell Tech Drop
20" Foose Spank 5 Wheels, Dunlop Sport 9000 295/40/20
SS Grill
Bullit fuel door
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LFP Driveshaft loop
Doetsch Tech Nitro Active shocks
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Best 1/8th time so far: 8.43, 1.87 sixty foot, 85 mph
 

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Old May 10, 2002 | 08:19 PM
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I was just talking with a buddy the other day about whether he had heard of any real gains in power or 1/4 times. He hadn't heard of any either. We're in Arizona where it's HOOOOT so i wonder if it would help more here or???
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Chikenears, the rule of thumb for inlet air temp reduction is 1% power increase for every 10 degrees of temp reduction.

This will vary, depending upon the efficiency of the engine.
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 09:36 PM
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I did not gain anytime at the track. Have talked to others that said it helped them. At that time I was in the high 12's. I was using a 3# pulley then, I am sure it works alot better with more Boost.
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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Jeff, it might have something to do with the ambient air temp. It is possible to cool the inlet air too much.

We had that problem on a Bonneville car that I worked on. We had to turn off the intercooler early in the run, or it would just load up and blubber.
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by Jay Lincoln
Chikenears, the rule of thumb for inlet air temp reduction is 1% power increase for every 10 degrees of temp reduction.

This will vary, depending upon the efficiency of the engine.
Jay,

Are you saying that a 90 degree reduction in intake air temperatures (like JL claims on his website) will result in a 9% increase in power? And, when you say power, are you referring to horsepower and torque? If so, that's an incredible amount of power increase for the money, wouldn't you say?

Wouldn't you say that is equivalent to close to a 35 hp gain on a 400 hp engine? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

BTW, I can't wait to try your Truck Tracs with my slicks!

Tim
 

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Old May 10, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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That's the number that I have been told is accurate. We used it on Gale Bank's, twin turbo Firebird at Bonneville many years ago.

We were able to reduce the inlet air temps from over 300 degrees to just over 100 degrees. We could melt 25 lbs. of ice during a 5 mile run. We used four water to air IC radiators for those reductions in temp.

When will you be running your truck? Are they slicks or ET Streets?
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 10:57 PM
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What about the possibility of removing the small stock intercooler and downsizing to a smaller more efficient battery and fitting the Powercooler under the hood for everyday driving.It would have a much larger capacity.Probably have better performance for every day "stoplight Challenges"?
Just a thought,Don't know if it'll fit??
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 11:07 PM
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The powercooler isn't practical for everyday driving, as you always have to drain some of the water, and then refill it with ice.

I have heard of a few people installing fans on the heat exchanger to aid in cooling the IC system, when the airflow is at a minimum.

Also, it would be possible to install a larger heat exchanger, and seal it off with better ducting. That would probably help.
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Jay Lincoln
That's the number that I have been told is accurate. We used it on Gale Bank's, twin turbo Firebird at Bonneville many years ago.

We were able to reduce the inlet air temps from over 300 degrees to just over 100 degrees. We could melt 25 lbs. of ice during a 5 mile run. We used four water to air IC radiators for those reductions in temp.

When will you be running your truck? Are they slicks or ET Streets?
Hoosier slicks on 16" wheels. If I get your Truck Tracs from Sal in time, I'm planning on running it Thursday night.

I just got an email from JL saying it would be ten days or so before he could ship a powercooler so I won't be using that this week.
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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Does Hoosier recommend curing the tires? You might want to do that before running them.
 
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Old May 10, 2002 | 11:48 PM
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Jay,wouldn't the increased capacity of the powercooler aid in everyday use?[filled completely with coolant]4 gal as compared to 1 gal?
 
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Old May 11, 2002 | 12:32 AM
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Badbolt2, the increased capacity may help a little bit. It would provide a surge capacity that would stay cooler longer, providing it had enough time to circulate through the heat exchanger.

You would see the benefits of the IC for a longer period of time. It certainly wouldn't heat as quickly. Eventually, you would have to give it time to cool down, which would also take a longer time.

It would probably be best to use the increased capacity with a larger heat exchanger.
 
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Old May 11, 2002 | 04:22 AM
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Originally posted by Jay Lincoln
Does Hoosier recommend curing the tires? You might want to do that before running them.
No need for that... He has my old slicks that are well broke in... Tim set them at 14psi with 14.5 once you burn out, and your set!!



I think the powercooler is worth about 2 tenths at the track. Ii also helps in bracket racing to cool off quicker!
 
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Old May 11, 2002 | 10:21 AM
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Re: Johnny Lightning Power Cooler and other modss?

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chikenears


I've got to speed my truck up some and I'm weighing all options.

Tim





















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