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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 02:37 PM
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Question Pinoin Snubbers

Anyone tried pinoin snubbers? Do they help with launch or traction? Who is selling them? How do they install?
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 06:51 PM
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--Yes
--Yes
--Performance Products (Mike Troyer)
--They bolt to the bed rails.

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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 08:07 PM
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I'm still waiting to see a picture of one before I buy. They sound good but I'll wait to see what they look like before I get one...
 
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 08:20 PM
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Me too !!! I really dont want to mess with traction bars.

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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Me too !!! I really dont want to mess with traction bars.

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Bob: Truck-Traks aren't 'messy' . They don't weigh much, make no noise, bolt on easily in a half-hour, are suitable for daily driveing, need no adjustments(once you get the 'right' distance--snubber-to-spring), are reasonably priced, and they work .

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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 08:47 PM
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Dan there is one thing wrong with truck traks for my L. They do not work on composite leaf springs....
 
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 11:55 PM
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i have some advice about the pinion snubber. it is a temporary fix. it does help axle wrap , but i have now gained lots of wheel hop, which i never had. i have adjusted it from all different heights from 1/2 " to 3" away from the pinion. i am going to spend the extra money and get the traction bars to solve both my problem of axle wrap and wheel hop.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2002 | 11:59 PM
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i have some advice about the pinion snubber. it is a temporary fix. it does help axle wrap , but i have now gained lots of wheel hop, which i never had. i have adjusted it from all different heights from 1/2 " to 3" away from the pinion. i am going to spend the extra money and get the traction bars to solve both my problem of axle wrap and wheel hop.
Thats what I did I got Truck Traks and a pinion snubber.

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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 03:17 AM
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Ok -

where can I get truck tracks???

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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 07:11 AM
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BOB: Go to www.Truck-Tracks.com

SOAP: Which came first, bars or snubber? Did you experience wrap up after bars were installed? Can you describe the snubber install?

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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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snubber/ wheel hop

Having designed and built the snubbers that Mike T. sells, I
would like to add the following.
While testing the original proto-type snubber on my truck during
the entire racing season last year, I personally was only able to
create one unfavorable reaction.
While testing different heights of adjustment from the hogs head
I was able to create a bouncing, or Porpoise effect. This occured
when I had the snubber run down within 1/8" from the hogs head. I had to get out of the throttle, and then ease back into it.
I have found that on my truck that the best results occur when I have mine set at 1/2" to 5/8" above the hogs head.
It is evident that each truck will require a different setting to obtain optimum results, depending on the power you are making.
I personally have never experienced " wheel hop" while using this
device, but realize it is a real factor on several trucks.
I have installed a set of Metco upper links on my truck, and believe that the two devices working in unison will be a killer combination during the upcoming season.
The intent of the snubber is to "stop" axle wrap up by contacting the 3rd member as it attempts to lift when torque is applied.
My truck actually "lifts" in the rear end when I am heating the tires, or launching at the lights. It took me approximately 15 to 20
runs to locate the best setting for my truck. This is why the main
snubber bolt has a 2.0 pitch thread on it, so adjustments can
be made in small increments,which I believe is necessary to find the best height setting for this device.
If any of you who have purchased one have any questions that
you would like to ask, PLEASE, do not hesitate to send me an e-mail. I will try to answer any questions you have. I will provide my
phone number if so requested and we can further discuss this device and its intent.

Marc
 
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 09:55 AM
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Re: snubber/ wheel hop

Originally posted by Marc Carpenter

It is evident that each truck will require a different setting to obtain optimum results, depending on the power you are making.
I personally have never experienced " wheel hop" while using this
device, but realize it is a real factor on several trucks.
I have installed a set of Metco upper links on my truck, and believe that the two devices working in unison will be a killer combination during the upcoming season.

Marc I would like to make a few comments here. Sal has said the the upper links are bad for our L's. In fact awhile back he even posted a picture and description of why they are no good. Now if we have to install another traction device besides the pinion snubber to have that "killer combination" wouldn't it be just as cost effective and easier to installed a Rancho (JDM/JLP) style bar? The whole reason for me to consider a snubber is it's ability to get the job done and NOT cost too much. It looks now like two devices are needed in unison to accompish what the other style does. Just my observations and .02. thanks
 
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Hi Jeff.
I am totally comfortable with running just the snubber.
It is personal choice that dictates what we do to our trucks.
I appreciate Sal's input on the upper links, but it is "my" choice
what to do with "my" truck, so I will run both.
I don't expect everyone here to show an interest in, or buy
the snubbers I make, and Mike sells.
It is old technology that has been around forever. All I did was
adapt it to fit the trucks we drive.
Hell, if all men were created equal, why is there a fast lane on the
highways??
Seriously though, I have the greatest conficence in the snubber
and my proto-type has surpassed all my expectations. I just
wanted to add the upper links as they , at least in my mind, give
me a sort of a modified 4-link set up which is superior to a leaf
spring suspension.
Hope this clears up my decision to do so.
Marc
 
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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Originally posted by BOSTONL
BOB: Go to www.Truck-Tracks.com

SOAP: Which came first, bars or snubber? Did you experience wrap up after bars were installed? Can you describe the snubber install?

Thanks.
Bob, The Truck Traks came first.......only because they were available first, I have had them since September, and just bought the pinion snubber a few weeks ago. No I did not experience any wrap after the bars were installed. I am really hooking good with both installed on the street, I am really curious what will happen at a prepared track. The snubber screws to the bed rails with 4 supplied screws. Very easy install, took approximately 1 hour.

--Joe
 
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Old Mar 17, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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Soap-
How much did you pay, may I ask, for the pinion snubber? Thanks.

Doug
 
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