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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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There are others who this has happened to. Just from memory Jim@jdm and fastforward have blown their engines recently. I'm sure there are others I could find if the search worked. There is no telling how many have had engine problems that don't know anything about f150 online.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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True alot of the guys there have JL chips. But, look at the mods with them. Not alot of good combos there. I for one have seen with my own eyes JL's Chips on the Dyno & on a Ford Scanner. I also saw with my own eyes OTHER TUNERS chips being sent to JL for a reburn. Even from some people on these boards. JL has been good to me, and so has Sal(PSP) & Mark(LFP). I have not delt with Jim(JDM) yet so I can not comment on him.

I will say this.. There are alot of guys on here with fake names and statements that want to hurt tuners other than JDM....

All three tuners use different chips and there no compatable, so I can't see JL reburning a PSP or JDM chip.

I'm not trying to knock JL, trust me on that one. I have the ut most respect for johnny and if SAL wasn't my guy, then JL would be my guy. Sal just got me first and he's a lucky guy for that one . I just made a simple observation that there are 10 JL chips from a 12 post thread! That can't be good for buisness and if I was JL I would have that thread removed right away. Think about it, if your new to L world and you see this thread about blown motors and you see that JL chips are in most of the trucks that are blown up on this thread, then you not going to buy a JL chip most likey.. I know I wouldn't!
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 04:42 PM
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The only way to improve on these trucks is to find out what works and what doesn't. Anybody willing to mod there truck is unfortunatly going to be a guinea pig. Look back in the days of the turbo Buicks, people are running faster now with stock motors and " PROVEN " mods than the guys that started racing them 10 years ago. The technology we are using on these trucks is still fresh and relatively new,( don't get me wrong, I AM gonna mod mine too) but knowledge of what combination of mods to run comes with a price, and lots of time. Don't just jump on the 2#,4#,6#,8#? pulley bandwagon just because its there, be smart and purchase a combination that has been tested and tested. Please tuners, no flames intended in any way, but what if we knock it down a gear with the bigger is better plan and run the crap out of the smaller setups untill they are perfect!My $.02
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 05:57 PM
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Originally posted by RTKILLA



All three tuners use different chips and there no compatable, so I can't see JL reburning a PSP or JDM chip.


I think you are well aware that JL can reburn some chips other than Diablo. Not all but some. Plenty of guys know this. Not trying to flame you Joe, but I know you know its true...
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:12 PM
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I think you are well aware that JL can reburn some chips other than Diablo. Not all but some. Plenty of guys know this. Not trying to flame you Joe, but I know you know its true...
I don't know if I would go that far?

I just sent JL an old R9 superchip from my lightning and he couldn't reprogram it. I've also been told by Old JL that he can only do the superchips if people have the stock 80milimeter mass airs. I was having my old R9 chip reburned to a 2000 L with a 2lb pulley and thats it! I DUNNO

I'm not sure about the autologic chips.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:13 PM
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I'm sorry, I'm just in a real pissy mood today and I just feel the need to pick a fight for some reason. I think I'm sexually frustrated!!! I need to get laid.
 
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:16 PM
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As a sideline observer, has anyone noticed, all have a chip of some nature?
my stock L will get a complete air induction system ,when someone makes a good one that draws outside air in in any,weather condition, ..and after my 6 yr extended warrenty i'll go with headers, no pullys or chips for me,my L will live long enough to be a classic>>.Not to say if , i had LOTS of $$$$ i would try some of these what (SEEM) to motor blowing MODS.
I guess i am getting to long in the tooth?
But you don't have to look at these post's to hard or long to notice an apparent trend?


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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 09:35 PM
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Originally posted by HANKFAN
In defense of JL, he does not personally build the programs for the Diablo chips he sells. Diablo does not have the software to allow JL to actually build his own programs. I have heard that Diablo will soon have this ability and JL will be able to make his own programs which should help with this problem.

If this is the case, I would think that JL would be looking for a different chip that he could program instead of having his reputation threatened by a program that he can't change.

In light of all the recent blown (broken rods) I have decided not to add any more mods until I can build my engine to take what ever I want to do to it. It's pretty obvious that, what ever the mod combination is, the rods are the week link.

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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 10:26 PM
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Johnny Lightning Performance is a DiabloSport Chip dealer. He doesn't sell Superchips or Autologic, therefore he doesn't have the programs for them . However, he used to distribute Superchips and still has some older programs.
 
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Old Feb 1, 2002 | 01:38 AM
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This does bring me to another point. JL's 99L probably had as many 1/4 mile passes as any 99L at the time he sold it for the 01! I know that he ran some arrangement of pulleys for most of that time and never had a problem. So you would think that if someone was going to blow a motor it would have been him? I wonder why his L held up so long after being raced virtually every weekend?
 
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Old Feb 1, 2002 | 04:24 AM
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My "blown" engine has two holes the size of baseballs on either side of the block. Has that ever happend to anyone elses "blown" engine. Most of the time when people say they blew theire engine they are talking about throwing a rod or something. But what could have cause two huge holes? The only thing that I can think of that was different from my setup than a lot of other chip/filter/pulley setups is that i didnt have a breather. Could the fact that I didnt have a breather on my engine be the cause of the holes in the block? Too much pressure and not enough breathing?? I still dont know if any rods are broken yet but I will find out soon...I just thought about this today and am curious to know if that little $30 mod could have saved my engine?!?!

sorry this post is a little off topic
 
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Old Feb 1, 2002 | 05:36 AM
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I belive JDM had 4 holes in his block when his rods broke. You can bet that yours broke a rod, or two, also. I belive that it has been documented well enough on the board lately that the rods are the week link and are the most common reason for engine breakage (holes in the block).

 
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Old Feb 1, 2002 | 10:42 AM
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Originally posted by HANKFAN
This does bring me to another point. JL's 99L probably had as many 1/4 mile passes as any 99L at the time he sold it for the 01! I know that he ran some arrangement of pulleys for most of that time and never had a problem. So you would think that if someone was going to blow a motor it would have been him? I wonder why his L held up so long after being raced virtually every weekend?
HankFan....


Right on the money guy... His truck (99L) had from 2lb to 8lb of boost for ALONG time. The 6lb lower is not that new really. He was testing it when I first met him early in the 2001 Race season. and He had the 2lb upper with it. Before that He had a 4 or 5 and 2 upper. Also a few of the guys that live near him or are close friends to him tested the 5 & 6 lbers with a 2 upper for awhile as well.
 
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