Does your side bar hinge or is it removable?

 

That looks great!!! Do you plan on painting the cage?

 

Did you cut holes in the back glass or is it plexyglass now?

 

Buddy: How did your guy connect it to the frame? Ive been looking into this and was told we have to weld directly to the frame. NO Bolting of any kind allowed. Could you post some pictures of the connection to the frame? Mine goes in the shop 2 weeks from now for the install. Looks Nice! JL

 

Hey JL
I spoke to NHRA and I was told it is ok to bolt the cage to the frame
here is a quote from the NHRA web page
"All cars with an OEM frame must have roll bar attached to frame"
It doesn't say welded it says attached

 

The guy i was talking to said he spoke with nhra and said this year there are (revisions) And 1 of them is that the bar HAS to be welded no bolts of ANY kind! Man i hope my guy is WRONG!. Check into it don and let us know...JL

 

JL

JL call this guy

NHRA Division Directors
Division 1

Bob Lang, Director
366 Easton Road
Warrington, PA 18976
(215) 343-2558 fax: (215) 343-0159
web site: http://www.nhradiv1.com

Connecticut; Delaware; District of Columbia; Maine; Maryland; Massachusetts; New Hampshire; New Jersey; New York; Pennsylvania; Rhode Island; Vermont; West Virginia

 

Looks Sweet!

How much is this costing you boozy? I'm going to have TRZracing do mine! My buddy eddie just got a job working there so I got the hook up now baby.

Also, what are yo doing for a bed cover? leather.

 

Johnny, I would recommend talking with someone in the NHRA Technical Department. In 2001 rulebook, is not specific when it comes to body on frame vehicles. On unibody vehicles, you can weld or bolt the rollbars/cages using certain sized plates. It is not, however, very specific when it comes to full frame vehicles, except when he frame is fully fabricated.

I have not received my 2002 rulebook, so they may require welding instead of bolting.

I would check with Danny Garcia in Glendora. Here's the # 626-914-4761

 

What I want to do is have rear bars that disconnect. In the above diagram it says the bars can be 5" from the top bar. Does this mean I can have a second bar welded 5" below the top bar and have the rear support bars connected to it with a disconnect? That way I could install a breezer window. When I'm not at the track I can have the window in place and while at the track just take the window out and connect the bars to the bed and upper bar.

Would something like this be legal?

I would rather have a breezer no leak window instead of a lexan with holes in it. This would also let me run my topper or bedcover.

 

The roll bar must be welded to the frame. Bolts are not allowed. Trust me, I have been going over our cage design with many NHRA tech officials for the past 2 months preparing for the install. Our original idea was to build stantions off the frame to meet the floor, and then bolt the cage through the floor to it. Were were told this was not allowed, bolting is only permitted for unibody cars. Bob Lang was one of those people who told us no. We also were going to do the removable rear bars, in case the truck was ever in an accident and the bed had to come off, we wouldn't have to cut the cage. That was also not allowed. No bolt in bars permitted. You also can't run with an open window in a full body car. There have been a lot a "Gray areas" in building this properly. The trucks design presents several obsticals that make a proper "legal" cage far from your average conventional install. I'm sure that many people will not have cages that are "100%" legal, but most tracks will let them go. Me myself, I'd rather spend the extra time and money for a set up that is proper, and not have to worry about driving halfway across the country only to be told my cage doesn't meet a certain rule and I can't race.

 

And of course you have the type of people that would go out of their way to have a fellow competitior thrown out of an event due to a improperly installed cage.
Sad but true,I have seen it done all too often, and usually by the more INTIMIDATED racers.

Good Luck

 

I just got off the phone with Curt at NHRA Division 1

He told me that the bar must be welded or bolted to the frame if you go with a 5 point brar on a full body car with a frame, if the floor pan is still stock.

He then told me that you must weld it if you install a full roll cage.

So from what I understand if you know you are not going under 11.00 than a roll bar bolted to the frame is legal.

He told me removable rear bars are not legal, and if you run in the 11's not only is a roll cage required but so is a 5 point seat belt with the sholder belts going through the seats, not around them.

So it looks like what is legal is still in question.

 

Ok, First thanks for the compliments on the cage! It realy did come out very nice and the pics don't do justice on the welds. First, You can't put in swingouts unless you move the bar so far forward that it would not look right at all. Second, The cage is welded to the frame of the truck. I was told on a full framed vehicle the cage must be welded to the frame. The rear window is Lexan. As far as the bed cover, it's gonna have to wait for a bit but I'm gonna make my Craftec "the best soft cover on the market" work. I will get the rest of the pics up this week sometime when I have time.

Thanks
Brandon

 

Also, The cage will be painted Silver to match the truck. Also If anyone wants to come to the Cleveland area to get a cage done, Ultratech Racecars Will do one for around 1100.00. "I got mine a bit cheaper"

Thanks again