There is a thread over on NLOC gen 1 section.......guy test drove a 00 and said the gen 1 was much better......then some other guys said it is cheaper to make a gen 1 go 12s......i had a gen one.....own a gen 2 now.......i say chip, filter, pulley...equals 12s.....in most cases........if anyone was at WFC this year they can tell you there were several gen 1s there supercharged, NOS, etc and still running 14s or 13s...........what do you think??????????

 

I have been beat buy a 94 L that had a blower and juice.His truck ran high 11's-low 12's and i doubt he had gen2 money in to it.Also i know a local guy who has one of each and he, like everyone else says that stock the gen 1's handle better at the roadcourse but can't keep up with the gen 2's power.This guy has a 71 challenger with a blown hemi,a dart with a hemi,a built 340 duster,a built roadrunner,a viper and a ford monster truck. I asked him if he was related to jay leno lol.

 

My bet's on a Gen II to get into the 12's on a lower budget.

Chip/filter/pulley for well under $1000.

Of course you could get a used Gen I and put money into it that would be less than the total cost for most GenII's of around $30,000 (truck + mods) to make the 12's - maybe they're talking the cost of the truck plus mods, instead of just mods?

 

I was assuming this included purchase price,if so i still have to go with a gen 1. Sal should no the answer to this one.

 

Problem with owning a Gen I is that it is one of the ugliest vehicles on the road. I'm a ford fan, but never gave their trucks a second look until 97.

 

You would have to knock off over 3 seconds from the Gen 1's timeslip to do that.And that costs more than taking off a second and a half from the Gen 2's.I have both trucks and you would need headwork,tranny work, a good blower and intake work and that would would be over 4000.But I think they do have more potential than the Gen II( money not being an issue)DB was right in saying that the cost of the truck plus the mods would definately be less of an investment.P.S.(White 95 will be for sale)

 

Not too start any more crap in here, but the some of the stuff being typed is just incorrect.

It is cheaper to get a Gen 1 into the 12s (11s, 10s, 9s, 8s, 7s, or whatever) than a Gen 2. Period

For 30K (cost of a STOCK Gen 2), an Gen 1 could be into the low 11s-mid 10s.

And as far as them being ugly, fine. That is 100% personal preference.

I've got an ugly farm truck with a pretty tailgate...wanna see it?

Gen 2s are cool and are faster stock. But who keeps 'em stock?

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Kevin Lewis Proud to be NLOC Member #405
93 Black SHO ATX - Cone Filter, Eibach Springs, and Doug Lewis Tranny
93 Black Lightning - Stock
95 Black Lightning - Vortech S-Trim, TW Heads, 1.6 Rockers, Lunati Roller Cam, Mass Air Conversion, 36# Injectors, Chip by PSP, Precision Industries Converter, Bassani Headers and XPipe, Dynomax Race Mag Bullets, Full MSD Ignition, Electric Fans, ART Front Rotors, And waaaaaay too much fun.....

My 95 when it was down low, stock height now.

 

Great, now were are fighting amongst ourselves instead of with the Brand X trucks. What the heck is this world coming too? Let me see if I can resolve this before we start having a Lightning generation war.

If you are talking about taking a stock Gen 1 and a stock Gen 2, and adding the cost to go 12s in the needed parts, then theres no question it takes the average Gen 2 less than a grand to hit 12s.

If you are including the purchase price of the truck (which would make you sound like a whining Dakota owner) then you have to factor in some numbers.

2001 Lightning - $32k
Chip- $255
Filter kit- $200
Lower pulley- $240
Total- $32,695 for the average Gen 2 to go 12s

95 Lightning - $23k
Vortech S-trim- $3200
8-10 psi pulley- $100
Exhaust- $1200
Shift Kit- $150
Chip- $255
Filter Kit- $80
Total- $27985 for the average Gen 1 to go 12s

Those are basic parts for each truck. Obviously some trucks can do it with less stuff and some require more. That's about the midway for needed parts. The Gen 1 will require more "supporting" parts for that power level, and will also require more routine maintenance. So when it's all said and done, it's really about equal.

 

OK, OK....now which truck STOPS better and how much to .......O nevermind. Why don't WE all go out and whip the dogchit out of some RT's

 

Sal,

I don't think it is whining or civil war or anything like that. The Gen1 and the Gen 2 are two entirely different trucks. Heck, the only think in common is the Blue Oval.

I think it is healthy to discuss the pros and cons of both, because there are pros and cons of both trucks.

It goes kinda like the whole sibling thing: I can say whatever I want about my brother. But when someone else starts picking on him, watch out.

We all know who is the real enemy. Let's just keep it civil and logical. And no matter what, both trucks, are in fact, Lightnings - the Baddest Sport Truck ever built.

Kevin Lewis Proud to be NLOC Member #405
93 Black SHO ATX - Cone Filter, Eibach Springs, and Doug Lewis Tranny
93 Black Lightning - Stock
95 Black Lightning - Vortech S-Trim, TW Heads, 1.6 Rockers, Lunati Roller Cam, Mass Air Conversion, 36# Injectors, Chip by PSP, Precision Industries Converter, Bassani Headers and XPipe, Dynomax Race Mag Bullets, Full MSD Ignition, Electric Fans, ART Front Rotors, And waaaaaay too much fun.....

My 95 when it was down low, stock height now.

 

If your going to do that then you better factor in the inflation from the 95 lightning to the 2001 lightning cost. HAHAHAH'

This is such B.S.

Who gives a rats a$$, the gen1 and gen 2's are totally different beast!

Sal I need to talk to you about the 5lb pulley and chip combo. E-mail me please. Later, Joe