New Best...and a question
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From: The Natural State
New Best...and a question
Last night was my first trip to the strip since it cooled off and I got the new intercooler. The baro was around 30.00 with temps in the low 70s to mid 60s and humidity in the 60-70% range. With a couple new programs from a couple different tuners my best was as follows:
60 ft---1.848
1/8 et---8.137
1/8 mph---85.72
1/4 et---12.77
1/4 mph---106.38
I am happy with the new times, especially since this is on 93 octane with the chip NOT calibrated for the 26" ET Streets.
Now for my question: How can I improve my 60 ft times? Yes, I have read the faq's, but I have tried everything from 20 psi down to 15 psi (in 26x10.5x26 ET Streets on 8" rims), and launching from idle up to 2000 rpm. The best 60 ft time I could get was the one listed above, 1.848. The rest were either in the high 1.8s or low 1.9s. I am smoking the tires pretty good, but I do get minimal wheel spin. I just feel I am missing something basic.
On a side note, the new intercooler seems to keep the supercharger and the intercooler fluid cooler than before.
60 ft---1.848
1/8 et---8.137
1/8 mph---85.72
1/4 et---12.77
1/4 mph---106.38
I am happy with the new times, especially since this is on 93 octane with the chip NOT calibrated for the 26" ET Streets.
Now for my question: How can I improve my 60 ft times? Yes, I have read the faq's, but I have tried everything from 20 psi down to 15 psi (in 26x10.5x26 ET Streets on 8" rims), and launching from idle up to 2000 rpm. The best 60 ft time I could get was the one listed above, 1.848. The rest were either in the high 1.8s or low 1.9s. I am smoking the tires pretty good, but I do get minimal wheel spin. I just feel I am missing something basic.
On a side note, the new intercooler seems to keep the supercharger and the intercooler fluid cooler than before.
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I made 7 runs last saturday on F1's at 32psi, here are my 60fts:
1.852
1.844
1.889
1.864
1.816
1.821
1.850
in my opinion the key is learn how to do a burnout. I can't explain it here, and honestly I'm no expert, since I feel that I really just started learning how to do a burnout correctly last weekend. I have raced my mustang and my lightning many times in the past, but never done the burnout correctly. in fact, with the L i've never done a burnout at all, I just drove around the water box. watch the fast cars on slicks at your track. the guys who race every weekend. you will see them do the burnout until the tires get to the correct temp and then they will slowly let the car walk forward as they ease out of the brake and the throttle at the same time, until the tires slow down enough (on the dry concrete past the water box, NOT in the water) to regain traction with a sudden "SCREECH". watch them and you'll see what I mean. Also, maybe more importantly than anything is TRACK PREP. If you race at a crappy track, then you can only do so much. There are two tracks here in Richmond, one SUCKS MAJORLY and the other (VMP) generally has very good traction. This past weekend it just so happend to have EXCELLENT traction.
I know this probably doesn't help much, but I guess the best advice is PRACTICE! I don't know how, but this past weekend I guess I just finally figured it out. At least I hope so anyway, we'll see if I can duplicate those results on my next track visit.
it takes practice and don't forget that the track conditions may always be changing, night versus day, sun vs clouds, hot vs cold etc. you will have to modify your burnout and launch accordingly.
later,
chris
P.S. I was using a very moderate launch RPM (anywhere from 1000 to 1400). Try starting out low and working your way up until you find the optimum combination of RPM and Traction. Try to get to the track as early as possible. Maybe that is how I improved so much last saturday. I was at the track and tech'd in before they actually opened the lanes. I was able to make 4 runs between 11:12am and 11:33am. that is one run every 5 minutes! I was able to remember what I had done on the previous run and make changes and compare how they affected my times, instead of running with two hours between runs where you have more variables to deal with.
1.852
1.844
1.889
1.864
1.816
1.821
1.850
in my opinion the key is learn how to do a burnout. I can't explain it here, and honestly I'm no expert, since I feel that I really just started learning how to do a burnout correctly last weekend. I have raced my mustang and my lightning many times in the past, but never done the burnout correctly. in fact, with the L i've never done a burnout at all, I just drove around the water box. watch the fast cars on slicks at your track. the guys who race every weekend. you will see them do the burnout until the tires get to the correct temp and then they will slowly let the car walk forward as they ease out of the brake and the throttle at the same time, until the tires slow down enough (on the dry concrete past the water box, NOT in the water) to regain traction with a sudden "SCREECH". watch them and you'll see what I mean. Also, maybe more importantly than anything is TRACK PREP. If you race at a crappy track, then you can only do so much. There are two tracks here in Richmond, one SUCKS MAJORLY and the other (VMP) generally has very good traction. This past weekend it just so happend to have EXCELLENT traction.
I know this probably doesn't help much, but I guess the best advice is PRACTICE! I don't know how, but this past weekend I guess I just finally figured it out. At least I hope so anyway, we'll see if I can duplicate those results on my next track visit.
it takes practice and don't forget that the track conditions may always be changing, night versus day, sun vs clouds, hot vs cold etc. you will have to modify your burnout and launch accordingly.later,
chris
P.S. I was using a very moderate launch RPM (anywhere from 1000 to 1400). Try starting out low and working your way up until you find the optimum combination of RPM and Traction. Try to get to the track as early as possible. Maybe that is how I improved so much last saturday. I was at the track and tech'd in before they actually opened the lanes. I was able to make 4 runs between 11:12am and 11:33am. that is one run every 5 minutes! I was able to remember what I had done on the previous run and make changes and compare how they affected my times, instead of running with two hours between runs where you have more variables to deal with.
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I haven't drag raced in many years, but I have done many many standing start road racing starts. I always try and launch in the same tracks as the burnout when I go on the parade lap. When I was drag racing, I hadd enough HP in the car to continue the burnout thru the starting beams. I have not taken the L to the track, so I'm not sure you can continue the burnout that long
. If you can, make sure you get your rear tires in your old tracks.
. If you can, make sure you get your rear tires in your old tracks.
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From: Orland Park, IL just south of chicago
Have you removed your front end sway bar?
That will help out allot, ALLOT!
I went from the 1.8's to the 1.7's and very very low 1.7's at that. Another .1 and I could get a 1.6.
That will help out allot, ALLOT!
I went from the 1.8's to the 1.7's and very very low 1.7's at that. Another .1 and I could get a 1.6.