Increasing idle speed?
Is it possible to increase the engine idle speed slightly(50-100 rpm) with the throttle stop on the throttle body or do I need to get the chip reburned for this. If I can bump it up abit without any problems such as the idle control solenoid going nuts then I'll go that route. Blower cavitation is the problem on my tight a$$ Eaton. Thanks Jeff
STOP! before you start messing with adjustments under your hood! i have always been told by mechanics and many other people to never ever mess with the idle adjustments on these newer cars and trucks. its something thats set from the factory and you should not mess with it. i think its called Minimum Idle Adjustment? someone who knows more should step in here, Sal,JL,Spiro,JDM ? im just passing on what i have always been told
Mike
Mike
Ok thanks guys.....that is kind of what I thought. Looks like another reburn for the chip.....hey Sal anything new and improved for the 01's? Jeff
Last edited by JeffsLightning; Sep 16, 2001 at 07:20 PM.
Jeff
The reason why is that it throws the minimum closed throttle voltage out of adjustment on the throttle position sensor.
The TPS is not adjustable on these fords so if you open the throttle blades the computer will see a different voltage than it needs to see and you might get a SES light.
Also if you open the throttle blade the computer might tell the idle air control motor to shut off air supply and you will end up with the same idle anyway. At least I think so.
Dale
P.S. What do mean by" Blower Cavitation", and how is it effecting you idle, just currious.
The reason why is that it throws the minimum closed throttle voltage out of adjustment on the throttle position sensor.
The TPS is not adjustable on these fords so if you open the throttle blades the computer will see a different voltage than it needs to see and you might get a SES light.
Also if you open the throttle blade the computer might tell the idle air control motor to shut off air supply and you will end up with the same idle anyway. At least I think so.
Dale
P.S. What do mean by" Blower Cavitation", and how is it effecting you idle, just currious.
Last edited by Bad as L; Sep 16, 2001 at 12:56 PM.
Try getting a Torque converter. It helps on acceleration and other stuff. The Magazine 'Truckin' did an article about it and it brought the 1/4 mile times of a white L down by .47 secs.
They used ProTorque's torque converter
www.protorque.com
They used ProTorque's torque converter
www.protorque.com
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Originally posted by Bad as L
P.S. What do mean by" Blower Cavitation", and how is it effecting you idle, just currious.
P.S. What do mean by" Blower Cavitation", and how is it effecting you idle, just currious.
Hey Jeff,
I know this is an ancient thread, but...
Did you ever get your "cavitation" issue resolved? I am getting the same noise on my '01 after installing a 4# lower. I have been checking out threads on the subject to base my decision on. Since I don't have a chip, right now I am leaning towards adjusting the throttle stop screw to get about 100 more RPMs then re-adjusting the TPS for .98 VDC.
Sammy
I know this is an ancient thread, but...
Did you ever get your "cavitation" issue resolved? I am getting the same noise on my '01 after installing a 4# lower. I have been checking out threads on the subject to base my decision on. Since I don't have a chip, right now I am leaning towards adjusting the throttle stop screw to get about 100 more RPMs then re-adjusting the TPS for .98 VDC.
Sammy
Actually, when I had my mustang (93), there was a procedure you could go through where you clear out the computer (diconnect battery, etc), disconnect the IAC and start the car with NO accessories on...Then, use the throttle screw to adjust the idle rpm being careful not to go over .99v (othere wise you had to slot and adjust the tps. Than, turn car off, turn all accesories on and start the car back up with the IAC on. This forced the EEC to relearn the idle. seemed to work for me after I put a cam in the car. This procedure if I am not mistaken was from Chris Johnson's website.
Tom
Tom
Originally posted by 01Lightning
Hey Jeff,
I know this is an ancient thread, but...
Did you ever get your "cavitation" issue resolved? I am getting the same noise on my '01 after installing a 4# lower. I have been checking out threads on the subject to base my decision on. Since I don't have a chip, right now I am leaning towards adjusting the throttle stop screw to get about 100 more RPMs then re-adjusting the TPS for .98 VDC.
Sammy
Hey Jeff,
I know this is an ancient thread, but...
Did you ever get your "cavitation" issue resolved? I am getting the same noise on my '01 after installing a 4# lower. I have been checking out threads on the subject to base my decision on. Since I don't have a chip, right now I am leaning towards adjusting the throttle stop screw to get about 100 more RPMs then re-adjusting the TPS for .98 VDC.
Sammy
Not to play Devil's advocate here! I pulled my T-body and made the cut in the adjustment screw. Put it back on, pulled the t/p sensor. Sloted the sensor holes enough to adjust t/p voltage while my NGS was hooked up.
Started the truck and increased the RPM by 77-85 in drive and adjusted the t/p voltage, no problems. No chip and helped on the cavitation noise. I too have it. My truck ran lower then average RPM and it was loud. No SES light. No problem with the ISC or morning cold starts.
You do have some room to improve without getting a chip. I do recomend that if you already have a chip. Have the tuner make the adjustment. If you plan on not running a chip you can use the adjustment screw.
Had my truck at the dealer the last few days. Mod friendly and the Tech there had an NGS on and didn't catch it. LOL......17K on the truck and the fuel pump took a chit....
Started the truck and increased the RPM by 77-85 in drive and adjusted the t/p voltage, no problems. No chip and helped on the cavitation noise. I too have it. My truck ran lower then average RPM and it was loud. No SES light. No problem with the ISC or morning cold starts.
You do have some room to improve without getting a chip. I do recomend that if you already have a chip. Have the tuner make the adjustment. If you plan on not running a chip you can use the adjustment screw.
Had my truck at the dealer the last few days. Mod friendly and the Tech there had an NGS on and didn't catch it. LOL......17K on the truck and the fuel pump took a chit....
Originally posted by JeffsLightning
Dale the cavitation that I'm talking about is a slight rattle noise only at idle more so in gear. From what I understand the 01 blowers have a 20 thousandths closer tolerance than 99/00's.
Dale the cavitation that I'm talking about is a slight rattle noise only at idle more so in gear. From what I understand the 01 blowers have a 20 thousandths closer tolerance than 99/00's.
Jon


