What would this service be worth?
This is the Lightning snout on our CNC after removing from the jig, where the snout was milled for the new performance pulley. What would this service be worth? Would people rather do this themselves with a grinder?
What size pulley are we talking about here?
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Spiro-
12.373 @ 110.15
Best 60' 1.72
@ 4700 w/out the Go-Go juice
11.94 @ 115.31 with the Go-Go juice @ 4700 lbs.
-Stock Meter
-Stock TB
-Stock Heads
-Stock Manifolds
-Stock motor
-Stock Torque Convertor
Empty Pockets Racing DE-NJ
Sponsored by POWER SURGE PERFORMANCETitle Sponsor WFC4
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Spiro-
12.373 @ 110.15
Best 60' 1.72
@ 4700 w/out the Go-Go juice
11.94 @ 115.31 with the Go-Go juice @ 4700 lbs.
-Stock Meter
-Stock TB
-Stock Heads
-Stock Manifolds
-Stock motor
-Stock Torque Convertor
Empty Pockets Racing DE-NJ
Sponsored by POWER SURGE PERFORMANCETitle Sponsor WFC4
I would say anywhere from $600 to $700 bucks. But then again, how much faster can you spin that blower. what about the people that have lower blower pulley already.
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You could make that pulley smaler without cogging it. You want to know how, A custom belt tensionoir that can torque that pulley up to 150 maybe 200 foot lbs. with that and some VHT on the belt, I wouldn't worry about no slipping. Its not like the stock pulley doesn't slip as it is.
Although a cog setup would provide the best grip, I really don't think it would be good for street drivability.
Although a cog setup would provide the best grip, I really don't think it would be good for street drivability.
How much machine time? Setup time? That should determine your charge.
Too tight of belt may cause the snout bearings to wear. Cogged belt would be the sweet setup. Street driving would be no problem. Just like a timing belt on most OHC engines.
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2000 Silver Lightning 13.16 (so far)
PSP 4-way
PSP Filter Kit
PSP Lower Pulley
Level 10 Shift kit
F-250 Trans pan
MagnaFlow 12468
Snug-Lid
I feel a 12.xx coming on.
Team PSP West
Too tight of belt may cause the snout bearings to wear. Cogged belt would be the sweet setup. Street driving would be no problem. Just like a timing belt on most OHC engines.
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2000 Silver Lightning 13.16 (so far)
PSP 4-way
PSP Filter Kit
PSP Lower Pulley
Level 10 Shift kit
F-250 Trans pan
MagnaFlow 12468
Snug-Lid
I feel a 12.xx coming on.
Team PSP West
$600-$700!!! Hey Killa I got this waterfront property for sale, but you get the best view at low tide,so what do ya say?
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so you will pay 400+ for a single blade throotle body(that realy doesn't do ****), but you wouldn't pay 600 to 700 to have another what 20 to 30 horsepower from this pulley change. Chit, I would.
I don't know if its safe to add that small of a pulley on the truck. I already have a 2 lb pulley from PSP. If anything I would do the ASP upper pulley and with that I wouldn't have to worry about grinding the snout. Now if there was a way to spin that pulley faster then 16,000 RPMS and maybe around 20,000 RPMS (safely). You would have a fed ex tonight!!!!!
LOL..KILLA' No more pullies for you
Your going to be playing with the juice...remember? Play it safe, and just stick with the PSP LOWER/BLOWER Pulley. Your boost guage will PEG when you hit that button...wait and see 
One thing everyone should remeber is when you swap an upper pulley for a smaller one, you loose Belt/pulley surface. Your better off swapping the lower for a LARGER pulley that will increase your belt/pulley surface, and provide less slippage.
Cog pulley systems have no "forgivness" when they are at full swing, you CANNOT run COGS on the street, the stress would be too great for M112. One over-rev could case some serious damage to your blower.. IMO
So the choices are quite simple...remove your snout and grind away material for a smaller pulley that will more than likely cost you boost, or simply add a reputable Lower pulley of your choice
See ya' at the WFC
The "Greek"
Your going to be playing with the juice...remember? Play it safe, and just stick with the PSP LOWER/BLOWER Pulley. Your boost guage will PEG when you hit that button...wait and see 
One thing everyone should remeber is when you swap an upper pulley for a smaller one, you loose Belt/pulley surface. Your better off swapping the lower for a LARGER pulley that will increase your belt/pulley surface, and provide less slippage.
Cog pulley systems have no "forgivness" when they are at full swing, you CANNOT run COGS on the street, the stress would be too great for M112. One over-rev could case some serious damage to your blower.. IMO
So the choices are quite simple...remove your snout and grind away material for a smaller pulley that will more than likely cost you boost, or simply add a reputable Lower pulley of your choice

See ya' at the WFC

The "Greek"
Spiro,
Good point about the coged belt. Hadn't thought of that angle. The larger lower pulley is the way to go. Just like a tire, increase the contact patch for more traction.
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2000 Silver Lightning 13.16 (so far)
PSP 4-way
PSP Filter Kit
PSP Lower Pulley
Level 10 Shift kit
F-250 Trans pan
MagnaFlow 12468
Snug-Lid
I feel a 12.xx coming on.
Team PSP West
Good point about the coged belt. Hadn't thought of that angle. The larger lower pulley is the way to go. Just like a tire, increase the contact patch for more traction.
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2000 Silver Lightning 13.16 (so far)
PSP 4-way
PSP Filter Kit
PSP Lower Pulley
Level 10 Shift kit
F-250 Trans pan
MagnaFlow 12468
Snug-Lid
I feel a 12.xx coming on.
Team PSP West
Well our lower pulley is only on the two test trucks so far. We've not had any slipping on the upper so far, and boost is too high on the OEM gauge to tell what we're getting. We'll have to get an AutoMeter mounted to tell, but I'm guessing around 13 psi. We have the three sets we're doing on the Dyno next week so it will be easy to tell just how much improvement we're getting. Last run before the lower was installed the red truck hit 410 hp SAE on the rollers. What I was really interested in was how much the CNC work would be valued at.... we're thinking around $100 including shipping back with insurance.
$100 for CNC work sounds very fair. Hope you plan on running batches rather than individual snouts. $100 would barely cover the setup time.
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2000 Silver Lightning 13.16 (so far)
PSP 4-way
PSP Filter Kit
PSP Lower Pulley
Level 10 Shift kit
F-250 Trans pan
MagnaFlow 12468
Snug-Lid
I feel a 12.xx coming on.
Team PSP West
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2000 Silver Lightning 13.16 (so far)
PSP 4-way
PSP Filter Kit
PSP Lower Pulley
Level 10 Shift kit
F-250 Trans pan
MagnaFlow 12468
Snug-Lid
I feel a 12.xx coming on.
Team PSP West


