Okay,,, Please excuse my ignorance here...
I was planing on getting a T-form w/ 2 10" 6000s. I wanted to get a mono sub amp to push them at a combined load of 2 ohms, but I just discovered the T-forms come with 8 ohm subs. Should I;
A. Buy them and bridge a 2 channel amp
B. Buy them unloaded and get some 4 ohm sub ($70 more then loaded)
C.??????
D. Take it to someone who knows wtf their doing.
I want the setup that will get the most out of the subs.(hit the hardest!)

Im looking at the MTX THUNDER4250D, its my understanding that it will supply 250 watts x 1 at 2 ohms. Is that good enough for 2 6000's in parallel?
Or the Profile Clarus CL600M, 450 x 1 at 2 ohms.
Thanks for any help!!!

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Matt
Black 2001
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BedRug
Snug Lid
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ttt

 

dp.... sorry

[This message has been edited by black2k1 (edited 05-07-2001).]

 

If you want the badest box possible, then have me build it for for.

what do you want, a box for two or three tens?

I'm going to redo mine this year, and make a new style that comes out allot faster then my old one. so let me know and possible if your going to be at WFC4, I will bring it with me for you.

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Ok let me try to help ypu here, since car audio and cars has been always my passion I guess I can try to help you, first of all I would recomend that you get the unloaded box and buy a diferent pair of subs, something like Image Dynamics IDQ's because I have installed many of those and I think that they are way better than those MTX 6000 series and you can get then on DVC version so that way you have more wiring options, like if you get a pair of IDQ 4ohm dvc and you wire them in parallel you woulg get a 1ohm load aout of them or if you wire them in series you would get a 4ohm load and if you get the idq 2ohm DVC and wire them in parallel you would get a .05ohms and in series you would get a 2 ohm load, this every DVC sub not just for IDQ but this is just to give you an idea of your options, so if you are planing on getting an MTX class D amp such as de 4250D I will say get the 2 ohm DVC so that way you would get a 2 ohm load or better yet if you want to spend a little more get and MTx 6500D and be ready for some serious bass, and as far as the profile amp goes I have had a couple and I dind't like them because I think they don't put out what the amp says and in the other hand MTX amps have been known to put out way more than what the amp says so the choice its yours I'm just given you some options, if you need any more help just let me know,

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[This message has been edited by Gilberto B (edited 05-07-2001).]

 

Killa-
Thanks but Im set on the t-form.
Gilberto B-
I may be wrong but I thought 2 4ohm subs wired in parallel creates a load of 2ohms. And 2 4ohm subs wired in series creates a load of 8 ohms. This is all info I got from crutchfeild.com.

NEW QUESTION>>>>>>
Is the difference between components and 3 way speakers worth drilling into my L?

 

black2k1, you're right 2 4ohm subs wired in parallel would create a 2 ohm load and the same subs but wired in series would create a 8ohm load but remeber that I said that you could get those Image dynamics IDQ subs in DVC version wich means that they have a "DOUBLE VOICE COIL" so they have 2 voice coils and and they will act like if they were two subs, thats why you have more wiring options and thats how you can get a 1ohm load out of 2 IDQ's DVC"s that have a 4 ohm double voice coil, so by conecting all of the voice coils in paralel you would get a 1 ohm load out of those subs and if you connect them in series you would get a 4 ohm load and by doing the same but with the 2 ohm IDQ's DVC'c you will get either a .05 ohms load or a 2 ohm load, and as far as if it is worth to drill into you lightning to put componets I would say its up o you it all depends if you want to keep the lightning for a long time and if you are doing so yes it might me worth it but remeber that you are going to spend alot more money on those componets or you can do what I did just replace those stock speakers with something like pioneers or polks or kenwood, I got pioneers, and buy a pair of tweters and install them on the doors, thats what I didand it sounds way better that stock and it sound clean and loud, and I also installed a pair of 12" solobaric square subs behind the seat powered by a Cadence A7HC wich put out 1200 watts@1 ohm and its loud let me know if you have any more questions.

 

Thanks Gilberto B!
Since you know what your talking about,,, a few more questions if you don't mind....
How big of a diff is there between components and just some 3 way 6X8's. perhaps Kenwood KFC-6808C, or
Pioneer TS-A6865
If you know something better for around $130 please let me know.
Next, what is the best (all around) sub I can get w/o breaking the bank. Im not looking for show quality sound here just something that packs a hell-of-a punch.
Thanks.....

 

equation for determining total resistance in a parallel circuit.
R1 x R2 / R1 + R2, (8x8)/(8+8) = 4

I am running the thunderform, with the 8ohm drivers. Powered by an MTX 302(bridged). I hit 131 at a db drag. Remember that the lower your resistance, the hotter your amp will run.

 

ok as far of how big of a diference it will be between componets and 3 or 2 way speakers, you might be able to hear a diference only if you have, lets say in one side of the truck a regular 6 by 8 speaker and in the other side a set of componets but if you just want to get something that will sound way better than stock it all depends how much are you going or want to spend but if you don't want to break the bank, get something like the ones below wich you can get for $89 a pair from www.carmedia1.com, those are the ones that I have in my truck and I love them the play clean and are loud crutchfied has them too for $139 so I will say just go to the web site above and get them, I have order many times from them and they are great, they ship the same day that you order if the have the items in stock, and as far as subs goes I would say get the ones that I was talking above, trust me you wont be disappointed with the way those subs play, you would surpriced in how well they play and you can get thema also from carmedia for like $109 each just go to their web site and look for them just get the Image Dynamics IDQ 10D2 V2 wich is the 2 ohm model and just wire them to the MTX amp that you are going to get and wire them in series and you would get a 2ohm load wich is perfect for the MTX amp, let me know if you get those subs so I can go in more detail in how you can wire them to get the 2 ohm load out of them, and if you need more help just let me know.


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2000 Black F150 Lightning Mods: straight pipes,2 Kicker Solobaric 12L7, Cadence Ahc7 class D amp 1200 watts@ 1 ohm, Rf120A 2 channel punch Amp, pioneers 2 way speakers Ts-A6985
Audio Control 2 way Xover 24xs
Kenwood CD player D- Mask KDC 715S.
Future mods: "superchip" and JL Ram air kit.

Green 1993 F150 short bed pick up 2WD 5.8 351W( Mexican truck) Mods: K&N Filtercharger Kit, Headman Headers, Cats removed, Dual exaust system with 2.5 inch pipes and a Flowmaster Muffler, B&M shift kit, Jacobs Ultrateam Ignition System.

 

I have been running the MTX amps since they came out and I love them. They drive good clean and hard. I run a MTX 240 on my mid's and highs Impulse's and a MTX 280 bridged on a Kicker Solo-Baric 10" and is does fine in my Ranger X-cab. For my L I have a MTX 4160 (mid's/tweets) and MTX 2160 (sub), not installed yet. But I plan on a single Solo-Baric S10L7 10" square sub and Resolution R6c's and R25's. The mid's and tweets in either custom or Q-Logic kick panels, with a MTX three-way electronic X-over.

 

what ever happened to PPI, McIntosh, JL Audio, Polk, Phoenix Gold...? All i ever hear about on here is MTX and Pioneer.. crazy man.. crazy.

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2001 Black L.

 

People just don't know quality anymore.

Me, I got JL audio, pheonix Gold, Kenwood, and Kicker.

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I don't know ****,,, so if you guys want to help me, name specifics. If you guys think there is a better sub or speaker your input would be very helpful.... Otherwise im going with Gilberto B.>>>>>>I have heard the JL subs can't be beat and everyone I know recommends them<<<<<<<
Thanks for all your help Gilberto B!

 

Well RTKILLA, its not that we don't know quality any more the thing is that black2k1 said that he didn't want it to break the bank so thats why I mentioned pioneers because for the price they are great, I could say get a set of of MBquart's or JL's or Phenix Gold but since he doesn't want to spend a lot of $$ thats why I give him those options, I'm just trying to help guys .

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2000 Black F150 Lightning Mods: straight pipes,2 Kicker Solobaric 12L7, Cadence Ahc7 class D amp 1200 watts@ 1 ohm, Rf120A 2 channel punch Amp, pioneers 2 way speakers Ts-A6985
Audio Control 2 way Xover 24xs
Kenwood CD player D- Mask KDC 715S.
Future mods: "superchip" and JL Ram air kit.

Green 1993 F150 short bed pick up 2WD 5.8 351W( Mexican truck) Mods: K&N Filtercharger Kit, Headman Headers, Cats removed, Dual exaust system with 2.5 inch pipes and a Flowmaster Muffler, B&M shift kit, Jacobs Ultrateam Ignition System.