Ok I have read all over this board that the L is a good match for a C5.

Well my L is a 2000 model with a PSP intake and only 850 miles.

This C5 cought a red with me and gave me the eye. So I thought what the hell I will give it a go. I live @ 5000 feet so traction is not a big problem due to the power loss.

The light changes and we both nail it at the same time.
The result he pulled 1 car on me up to about 55mph and then started to pull pretty hard.
I backed off.

All in all not bad but I expected a little more. I know 850 miles is not a lot and it should get faster. Oh I also had a 250lb passanger and my dog with me. He was alone. The Vette driver not the dog.I am pretty sure the Vette was stock. Does that result sound about right?
I guess it is time to get some more mods. I WANT REVENGE.

 

Contrary to some of the stuff you may read on this board, a stock Lightning, especially one with only 850 miles on it, is no match for a stock C5, assuming both are well driven. Motor Trend tested a '99 C5 and did the 1/4 in 13.3 @ 108. It takes a very fast stock L. to get down to 13.6, and this is after a good break-in. You need to get a good chip on that sucker to take advantage of your improved intake before you go 'vette hunting again. As you know, with a good chip, intake and gears there are many on this board in the 12's. See the FAQ re: mods. Add the right ones, and then go out and smoke those chebbies.

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I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

'84 Alan Record Carbonio, Aerospoke wheels, Campy brakes.
'00 SVT Lightning, silver, G-tech Pro, JBA headers, 4.10 gears, Swanson chip, Pro-M, NGK plugs, carbon drive shaft, Roadmaster suspension kit
13.39 @ 102.5
2001 Kevlacat 2400, twin 115 Evinrude FICHT, Raytheon VHF, radar, autopilot and GPS chartplotter/fishfinder.

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Well I do not know what to say...



I havent had any problems...But mine had 17k mniles before I came across that type.

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99 Black Lightning
factory tonneau cover, 100k mile warrantee, Line-Xed
F150online.com R hp sticker mod in the mail.
2.145 60' 8.789@82.71 (1/8) 13.603@101.05 1/4 same run
straight pipes, 'Major' rear lights, no chip
Lightning!
Kills!
More kills!

[This message has been edited by Tundra (edited 12-29-2000).]

 

I stock lightning will not beat a C5 corvette

A chip /filtered Lightning WILL period.

We brag about beating vettes and we all do all of the time but 90% of our trucks are chipped.

Now here is a good one.You saw how much he had on you right?? Go get a chip.Now you can see how much a chip can do!!!!Dont belive it huh?? Get one you will!!

[This message has been edited by Lightningquick (edited 12-29-2000).]

 

Okay, that's it! I am gonna get a chip!! If I can get a chip/filter and run with C5's then I have to get one, I can't wait to see the look on their faces!!

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00 Black Lightning
No mods yet
00 Honda Civic
01 Pontiac Grand AM GT

 

Don't assume because you have a chip that you'll lay waste to all C5s. There are a lot of modified C5s out there along with a lot of stock ones that can still whip up on "most" chipped Ls. I've got one of the modified ones that'll knock down 12.8s all day long without working up a sweat..... never the less I look forward to selling it and taking delivery of my new ordered 01L.

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2001L, red (on order)

1998 C5 coupe, 6sp, Z51, red, ( many, many mods)

1969 Vette coupe, 496ci stroker big block, aluminum heads, 4340 crank & H-beam rods, JE 10.8 pistons, roller everything, McLeod dual disk clutch w/ aluminum flywheel, Richmond 6 spd, 3" dual exhaust, 300hp nitrous fogger, no strip time... just a street machine that eats super bikes. ( 2 gear wheelies..)

1985 FoToLet, work truck, 85 Toyota 4x4 (started as), Reading bed, ladder racks, 8" lift, 33 x 12.5's, Vette 350 4 bolt motor, Hooker Super Comp headers, Ford 9" rear, Toyota front diff, turbo 350 coupled to a Toyota tranfer case, 410 gears, a/c & power steering. f-a-a-s-t A/C & heat calls..... my specialty.

 

I have to disagree.I have raced many C5s at my track.Stock they basically run 13.2s-13.0s .Ive only seen one break 12.9 and that was basically stock with a set of exhaust.My point is,Most "good"chips can make an average lightning go around 12.8-13.2 which would make it a good race for a stock Vette and one that has slight mods.

the difference comes when you are on the street.Lightnings hook and usually have better drivers than corvette owners who "usually"(dont kill me vette guys) just drive em like old lady's and squash it once in a while.I dont think there is anything really other than a Viper that will take a Lightning on the street. My .02

oh yea some of those LUXURY cars are making a name also.More so than the "sports cars" these days.

DISCLAIMER
Please remember we are driving a 5000 lb truck.Beating a person in a $50,000 top of the line "sports car" could be hazardous to their health .Anybody with a heart problem should not be beat by a lightning.

 

"A chip /filtered Lightning WILL (beat a C5) period."


I don't really know about THAT. I've run regular 13.20's at 109 (now that the weather is cooler) in my mom's bone-stock and loaded with every option (i.e. heavy) 5000-mile 6-speed 2000 C5 convertible. My R9'd and Pro-M'd Lightning just BARELY dips into 13.29 at 102-103.5 on the occasional run, and the mph of Vette shows that it's running away at the end of the track (I know, aerodynamics). My point is... don't stereotype C5's as slower than a chipped & filtered Lightning simply because of the fact that most C5 drivers at the track are clueless. It's not the car's fault. And don't be so confident. By virtue of the fact that the C5 Hilander raced jumped him by a car length right out of the hole indicates that the driver of that C5 was on the ball, and it would have been a rough race for even a chipped & filtered L. If anything, even a STOCK Lightning has the advantage from a standing start, and should be door to door with a Vette at 60 feet. When I run my mom's car, I have to beat it up bad just to squeek a 2.10 60ft out of it, and it still pumps 13.20's. If you ever race a C5, and he somehow manages to have a nose on you out of the hole, believe me, you're not going to catch him unless he simply doesn't know how to row the gears properly and quickly, which can be common, and trick you into thinking that they're not as fast. I used to torch modded 5.0 Mustangs back when I had my '93 C4 6-speed. After the run, they would always search me out in the pits and say, "man, I've NEVER lost to a Vette! What's up?". The answer was simple, they had never raced one that was being driven well. I got regular 13.40's @ 107 out of that LT1 bone stock, and modded it a bit from there. With nothing more than a filter, chip, and Borla cat-back, it ran a best of 13.01 @ 108.3. You'd be scratching your head if you had met me in that car on the street in your c & f'd Lightning, running you door to door and then slowly pulling away, wouldn't you?


[This message has been edited by 69bossnine (edited 12-29-2000).]

 

Careful,
Make sure you don't try the new Z06!

 

<I dont think there is anything really other than a Viper that will take a Lightning on the street. My .02>

I have to disagree here. The L is an amazing truck, but trap speeds don't lie. Stock Vettes run an average of 106 in the 1/4 mile. As do Supras and a few F bodies. That's faster than most chipped L's (from what I've seen). Although the L usually et's better, the Vettes and others have the potential to beat a stock or chipped L without too much problem if the driver is capable (judging from the traps). I own a 97 Auto Supra....w/free mods (pulled hose for more boost, egr, etc), that car traps at 112 mph. On the street, it is noticably faster than my L. There's a ton of modded cars out there now days (as well as very fast stockers). Unless the L is running upper 100 traps, it's at a power disadvantage to most of the street machines out there IMO. Luckily it hooks incredibly well which helps make up for the power to weight ratio.

Jason




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Red 99, JL Flip Chip, Airaid, Kameleon Head Unit, Thunderforms.

 

I agree with Jason. The L is great b/c most street encounters are 1/8 mile or less. But, if you have a mid, low-13 sec L and are pulling on a stock C5 at 65-80mph, then the driver of the C5 is short-shifting like a son-of-a-gun. Race one at highway speed...if you walk all over it, then you have a "one-of-a-kind" truck that runs mid-12s.

I've been playing this game too long to believe otherwise.

As for there being very little out there besides the Viper that can beat an L...if I had a Viper, it wouldn't stay stock for more than a week...b/c a low-12 sec car is definitely not king of any hill on the street or strip. There are many cars that can whip Vipers, so that would include being able to whip L's, too.

And yes, I love my '99 L. Great vehicle. I just know its limitations.

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90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/447rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4
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I've owned and raced both a 99 C5 Coupe, A4, 3.15, and the 00 L I have now.
Same track, similar conditions, a few weeks apart, with a pretty decent driver (me).
C5 ran 13.47@102.5 bone stock and 13.22@107 with exhaust and air induction system.
L ran 13.70@99.5 stock and 13.35@102 with an R9 Superchip and Airaid intake.
I know some people have seen faster C5's and faster L's than mine, but that's as unbiased a comparison as you'll find, I think.
But the L still FEELS faster

 

just like some L's are faster than others the smae is true for c5's i have one at my track that can't break 13.6. You guys best beware of the z06 i saw a stock one 2 weeks ago go 12.50's at 114

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99 lightning pulley, Downs filter, superchip 13.18 104 new baby
69 camaro 7.90@180 10.5w 3200 lbs. 89 turbo T/A 11.41 121 mph(SOLD)

 

Maybe i need to clarify my point.

My and many others 99/00 Lightnings are running 12.8-13.2 with GOOD chips.

The Corvettes that i see at my track and hears about with similar track conditions run consistantly around 13.2 with GOOD drivers.

stock vettes,chipped Lightnings


Now, I never said anything about trap speeds!!! You take a 5 lb brick and throw it through the wind and then you take a 1 lb frisbee ,you are going to get different results.It does not take a brain surgeon to figure that out.I also agree that im glad its a 1320 not a 1650 cause we would be in the dust by then!!

Z06...............Enough said

Also when I said "nothing but a viper",I mean STOCK UNMODIFIED Production vechicles.I know Lightnings are the 13th fastest in the world but Im talking about a "CHIPPED "filtered Lightnings to use on all my comparisons.I dont know the hard facts,I WISH somebody will post that mag article again after reading this.Im sure the "chipped " lightning would take a few steps foward to around 5-6th and the rest of the cars are not even available for sale to normal people nevermind in the U>S>. Just my .02

 

Lightningquick, your wish is answered.

http://popularmechanics.com/popmech/...907AUCTBM.html

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'00 White Lightning #405
Born 2-21-00, delivered 3-6-00
Best run 13.2 @ 103 on F1's.