Ok, disclaimer first...if you don't like Dynojets that's fine. That's your opinion from bad experience, etc. Disregard this post. I just don't want to get ANY flames. I'm reporting _facts_ as they occur on my truck. I don't claim to have tested a lot of trucks...just mine.

This is just data I've collected on my own. Absolutely no one has given me a chip to test or anything like that. I've bought them all with my own hard-earned $$. I don't care which one makes more power going into the test.

Now that I have that cleared up, here are the contestants:

1) PSP chip (reburn, street program)
2) JL chip (street program)
3) Lone Star Performance (Dallas TX)...street program

Previously tested:
4) PSP chip (original street program)
5) Superchips CUX1TRAC

All runs were made on 93 octane gas, battery disconnected b/w chip swaps. All figures below are SAE net #s. I'm sad to report that on one previous occassion I mistakenly reported STD correction #s...which are a bit higher than SAE correction. However, all #s below are using the same (SAE) correction factor.

1) 364rwhp/447rwtq
2) 353rwhp/439rwtq
3) 354rwhp/427rwtq
4) 358rwhp/437rwtq
5) 344rwhp/412rwtq

My only other mods are Borla cat-back (worth zero) and a PSP inlet tube/filter kit.

Take it FWIW. I have my own subjective opinions about each of these chips (not #3, I haven't driven around with it at all...its not mine), but I will not post those here as those are strictly subjective. Feel free to e-mail me at Wa2fsT@aol.com and I'll give you my input in this regard.


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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/444rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4 http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html



[This message has been edited by WA 2 FST (edited 11-10-2000).]

 

Well thanks for going to great lengths to test all the chips, that must have cost a fair amount of $$. One thing that is easily overlooked when these tests are shown, and thatt is shift quality. How do we test that?

 

Thank's for the interesting stats. It makes my choice easier. Are you planning on getting a new maf? If so do you think it will effect the results much?

 

Tundra,

I should mention that I have a TransGo shift kit installed as well, so my shift firmness, etc will be a bit different than for someone without that. However, shift quality is one of MOST IMPORTANT things to me. E-mail me and I'll give you my impression of the chips. There is a difference in them. However, it is more subjective and I'm not willing to post that publicly as it wouldn't really be fair...it'd just be my opinion.

Hilander, I am probably going to forego the Pro-M MAF. No matter what, any chip I have here would have to be reburned to compensate for it. I have Pro-Ms on both my Mustangs. They are outstanding MAFs. However, I can tune the Mustangs myself, whereas with the L, I cannot reburn my own chips. I'm very pleased with the way the truck runs as it sits. Consistent 13.2s on stock F1s is darn good, especially considering I'm usually racing when its 85-95+^F and humid.

If I lived back in the northeast, it would be running as well as the others...I'm sure I could break into the 12.9s on radials. But, we're not blessed with that kind of air down here in N. Texas, so the track times won't be as gaudy.

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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/444rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4
http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html

 

Thanks for all the effort.

Raw peak values can sometimes be misleading. A torque/horsepower curve that is sharply peaked has much less drivability then a flater curve that that peaks lower. Area under the curve is very important for any street machine. We're fortunate that Lightnings are blessed with a big, flat torque curve from the factory. Can you post the graphs?

 

DH,

Wish I could...found my scanner on the blitz (still!). You'll just have to trust me when I say that the difference in all these is across the board. None of them are peaky, and none of them take an early lead down low only to be passed up on the top-end. The dyno operator did not overlay them for me on one chart. I'll see what I can do.

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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/444rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4
http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html

 

Thanks Wes!
Jim

 

Thanks Wes, those were informative results, but I want a recount, I mean retest!!! The dyno guy couldn't read the chart, it was too confusing! No wait, I own a PSP so that means I won, Yipee!!!! Forget the recount.

I wonder if these same results are generally representive for all the Lightnings. I would assume so, but then Fordsales posted all those discrepancies awhile ago so who knows. I know my experience with dyno machines has been positive and consistant.

Either way, thanks for your time and effort. I know I am very interested in knowing. Jeff

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2000 White Lightning
PSP chip
J/L RamAir
AirRaid with Big Mouth filter
4.10 gears
et 1/4 mi 13.14
Retrax tannaux cover
Bedrug

'65 Mustang with 347 stroker
'67 Corvette, ZZ502/502

 

Thanks for the info Wes. With all the numbers aside which of the 4 chips that you have owned do you prefer? To me just because one chip makes a little more HP than the other does not mean that its street chacteristics are as livable. I also have had numerous chips and reburns and everybody is differant in what they like..

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99.5 red Lightning
13.2@103
jcks@home.com

 

Hey Jeff,

Check your e-mail. I don't want to get into a subjective topic here b/c that will just lead to flame wars, and people will think I'm bashing one product or another, etc. Like you said, we all have different driving styles, likes and dislikes, so I kept this post very factual on purpose.

What's neat is that all the chips give a very good power increase. I think any of these chips would put a big smile on an L owner's face.

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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/447rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4
http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html

 

Wes
Could you copy me on that email?
Thanks
Tom
svtf150@cfl.rr.com

 

Just interested let me know too. Thanks

 

Tom, you have mail.

Gary O and others...either e-mail me at Wa2fsT@aol.com or give me your addy. I'll be happy to pass along my own personal impressions having used each of them (except #3) for daily driving for a decent amount of time.

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Wes Tarbox
90 LX 5.0 (10.69 @ 134.7)--597rwhp/590rwtq
96 Cobra (12.34 @ 115.8)--392rwhp/433rwtq
99 Lightning (13.20 @ 103.8)--364rwhp/447rwtq
00 Expedition XLT 5.4
http://members.aol.com/Wa2fst/index.html

 

WA 2 FST - Wow looks like you really put some time into this test. Just your time and effort alone was a big investment. I really like the fact that you just presented the numbers without the "personal opinion". Well done and thanks for the information.

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Rick

Email: ******@tampabay.rr.com

My Mods & More

 

Lone Star? New guys stepping up to bat, that cool, good to hear that there's more companies stepping into the Lightning ring.
Wes, I think you're definately hooked on getting that last HP outta your L. Good Job.

Cheers

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2000 Lightning (Red)
SHM Chip and Mass Air
SHM Blower Pulley
378.2 @ 5100 HP
445.0 @ 3600 ft-lb (before pulley)
Kill Count = 28 suckers picking rubber off their teeth.
SHM powered - www.seanhylandmotorsport.com

'99 Cobra - SHM engine, Vortech supercharger, and to many other mods that my wife don't know about.