Billet Cranks/rods
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I think people are confusing billet aluminum rods with billet steel rods. You don't want aluminum rods for a street driven vehicle. Billet steel rods are perfectly fine though, and that's what Neal is talking about.
Also, the H beam rods like Manley, Eagle, Crower, ModMax, etc, will handle well over 750hp if you get them with the ARP2000 bolts. It's the bolt that holds back the rating to 750 on the rods, not the rod.
Also, the H beam rods like Manley, Eagle, Crower, ModMax, etc, will handle well over 750hp if you get them with the ARP2000 bolts. It's the bolt that holds back the rating to 750 on the rods, not the rod.
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Originally Posted by 1badazzavt
You've been building that custom turbo setup for about three years now, why don't you actually do it instead of asking a bunch of questions about this super high dollar, high power build. 
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Originally Posted by LightningTuner
I think people are confusing billet aluminum rods with billet steel rods. You don't want aluminum rods for a street driven vehicle. Billet steel rods are perfectly fine though, and that's what Neal is talking about.
Also, the H beam rods like Manley, Eagle, Crower, ModMax, etc, will handle well over 750hp if you get them with the ARP2000 bolts. It's the bolt that holds back the rating to 750 on the rods, not the rod.
Also, the H beam rods like Manley, Eagle, Crower, ModMax, etc, will handle well over 750hp if you get them with the ARP2000 bolts. It's the bolt that holds back the rating to 750 on the rods, not the rod.
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Originally Posted by LightningTuner
I think people are confusing billet aluminum rods with billet steel rods. You don't want aluminum rods for a street driven vehicle. Billet steel rods are perfectly fine though, and that's what Neal is talking about.
Also, the H beam rods like Manley, Eagle, Crower, ModMax, etc, will handle well over 750hp if you get them with the ARP2000 bolts. It's the bolt that holds back the rating to 750 on the rods, not the rod.
Also, the H beam rods like Manley, Eagle, Crower, ModMax, etc, will handle well over 750hp if you get them with the ARP2000 bolts. It's the bolt that holds back the rating to 750 on the rods, not the rod.
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Yea the manley billets use a thicker rod bolt (7/16") which is why they get the higher rating. I have the manley billets/cp pistons in my VT shortblock, and it supposedly is rated at like 1100 hp due to the thicker rodbolts. I havent had any issues with the billet rods, my engine has been flawless so far but I havent been racing yet. The truck is at JJ's getting dyno tuned on the small upper pulley etc, and we found that my fuel lines had split in the tank so it caused a little bit of delay. I will post up my results when i get them.
Here's a little clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=601JLMlJ6ts
I'll get some better vids once I get the truck back tuned. My buddy's procharged c6 should be done in the near future as well so we'll get some of the action.
Here's a little clip.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=601JLMlJ6ts
I'll get some better vids once I get the truck back tuned. My buddy's procharged c6 should be done in the near future as well so we'll get some of the action.
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From: WINDSOR, ONTARIO, CANADA
HI!... Well I was told by the people at EAGLE that the EAGLE ESP "H" beam rods were only good for 750H.P (flywheel) with the ARP 2000 bolts. The L-19's are not available for the "H" beam rods. I tied for a year when building my 5.4. ARP keeps saying SOON, SOON, SOON. The OLIVER/MANLEY billet rods are good for well over 1500H.P (flywheel). 
The Manley Billet I-Beam rods for 5.4 engines are manufactured form 4340 aircraft quality vacuum degassed material that is fully CNC machined to exacting tolerances. They are shot peened and 100% individually magnafluxed for superior strength to over 1500 horsepower. They utilize the ARP2000 material 7/16" cap screw bolts and are bushed for use with stock sized .866" or bigger .912" pins. They are made to bolt in place of factory rods with a stock journal and 6.657" center to center length. These are the ultimate rods for high horsepower engines with surprising light weight to strength ratios. Each set is match balanced and machined for perfect fit.
Manley also offers forged connecting rods for the 5.4 Modular engines. They are manufactured from 4340 forgings that are then heat treated, stress-relieved, shot peened, and magnafluxed. They are offered in match weighted sets that are the stock 6.657" long with stock .866" pin bushings. They have ARP 2000 3/8" bolts and are capable of supporting up to 750 horsepower in boosted, nitrous, or naturally aspirated applications.
Last edited by Neal; Feb 9, 2007 at 03:39 PM.