Failed MA State inspection because of exhaust and tint
Failed MA State inspection because of exhaust and tint
Well, I've been the proud second owner of my '04 Lightning for just over a year now. Bought it Aug. 20 of last year. Last month was time to get an inspection sticker. I should have done it last month but I've been a little busy.
Last year the selling dealership put the inspection sticker on. I've only put about 5k on the thing and haven't done anything to it so I figured that there would be no problem getting a sticker this year.
There's a problem this year. I brought the truck to my local Ford dealership for my sticker this year. The place I bought it from is about an hour away and to be honest I didn't like the people I had to deal with there. Well, my local dealership failed my truck because of the aftermarket exhaust (JDM/Kooks) and said that the window tint was darker than what is allowed.
The exhaust and tint were on there when I bought the truck. I bought the truck used so I don't think the selling dealership will do anything for me. My local dealership has appearently been fined for putting stickers on vehicles that should have failed. So they had to fail mine.
I don't mind removing the tint but I don't like the idea of removing the exhaust. I would be degrading performance. Not to mention I would rather not have to spend 1500 to replace an exhaust that is much better than stock.
This sucks!
Last year the selling dealership put the inspection sticker on. I've only put about 5k on the thing and haven't done anything to it so I figured that there would be no problem getting a sticker this year.
There's a problem this year. I brought the truck to my local Ford dealership for my sticker this year. The place I bought it from is about an hour away and to be honest I didn't like the people I had to deal with there. Well, my local dealership failed my truck because of the aftermarket exhaust (JDM/Kooks) and said that the window tint was darker than what is allowed.
The exhaust and tint were on there when I bought the truck. I bought the truck used so I don't think the selling dealership will do anything for me. My local dealership has appearently been fined for putting stickers on vehicles that should have failed. So they had to fail mine.
I don't mind removing the tint but I don't like the idea of removing the exhaust. I would be degrading performance. Not to mention I would rather not have to spend 1500 to replace an exhaust that is much better than stock.
This sucks!
Originally Posted by wittom
Well, I've been the proud second owner of my '04 Lightning for just over a year now. Bought it Aug. 20 of last year. Last month was time to get an inspection sticker. I should have done it last month but I've been a little busy.
Last year the selling dealership put the inspection sticker on. I've only put about 5k on the thing and haven't done anything to it so I figured that there would be no problem getting a sticker this year.
There's a problem this year. I brought the truck to my local Ford dealership for my sticker this year. The place I bought it from is about an hour away and to be honest I didn't like the people I had to deal with there. Well, my local dealership failed my truck because of the aftermarket exhaust (JDM/Kooks) and said that the window tint was darker than what is allowed.
The exhaust and tint were on there when I bought the truck. I bought the truck used so I don't think the selling dealership will do anything for me. My local dealership has appearently been fined for putting stickers on vehicles that should have failed. So they had to fail mine.
I don't mind removing the tint but I don't like the idea of removing the exhaust. I would be degrading performance. Not to mention I would rather not have to spend 1500 to replace an exhaust that is much better than stock.
This sucks!
Last year the selling dealership put the inspection sticker on. I've only put about 5k on the thing and haven't done anything to it so I figured that there would be no problem getting a sticker this year.
There's a problem this year. I brought the truck to my local Ford dealership for my sticker this year. The place I bought it from is about an hour away and to be honest I didn't like the people I had to deal with there. Well, my local dealership failed my truck because of the aftermarket exhaust (JDM/Kooks) and said that the window tint was darker than what is allowed.
The exhaust and tint were on there when I bought the truck. I bought the truck used so I don't think the selling dealership will do anything for me. My local dealership has appearently been fined for putting stickers on vehicles that should have failed. So they had to fail mine.
I don't mind removing the tint but I don't like the idea of removing the exhaust. I would be degrading performance. Not to mention I would rather not have to spend 1500 to replace an exhaust that is much better than stock.
This sucks!
They didn't do an emissions test.
This is why they said they failed it:
I went to the dealership that I've been doing buisness with for several years. My '98 had a bunch of mods and there wasn't ever a problem with inspection stickers, or even warranty work.
I talked to the selling dealership today. They don't do stickers. They sent it out last year. They called the station that did the inspection last year and they said that now that the RMV has it on record that it failed for exhaust, they are going to expect a repair.
I suppose I could get a stock exhaust system. That seems like such a waste though.
Slipping a fifty might work, but the state is cracking down on fraud.
This is why they said they failed it:
Originally Posted by MA RMV
(5) Muffler and Exhaust System. Accelerate motor to test for prevention of unnecessary noise and emission of any unreasonable amount of smoke. The exhaust system, exhaust manifold(s), exhaust pipe(s), muffler(s), and tailpipe(s), if designed to be so equipped, shall be tight and free of leaks. System components shall be securely fastened with fasteners in place and undamaged. All motor vehicle exhaust systems shall discharge the exhaust beyond operator, passenger, and/or trunk compartment. Unnecessary noise is herein defined as any noise which is louder than that emitted by the vehicle when equipped with the original manufacturer's equipment. A gas or diesel vehicle will be rejected if, at normal operating temperature, at any constant speed over 15 MPH, (approximately 1,000 to 1,200 RPM's) visible black or blue exhaust emissions are evident.
I talked to the selling dealership today. They don't do stickers. They sent it out last year. They called the station that did the inspection last year and they said that now that the RMV has it on record that it failed for exhaust, they are going to expect a repair.
I suppose I could get a stock exhaust system. That seems like such a waste though.
Slipping a fifty might work, but the state is cracking down on fraud.
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If all else fails it a fed offense for a dealer to sell a non-emission compliant vehicle. 5 years or 50k miles the cannot even replace a cat unless it's damaged or defective. They can not change the numbers of cats either. Stock L has 4, Kooks and high flows has 2. That's another violation. Each violation is a $10,000 fine.
yeah i hear ya
It's getting harder and harder for me. The 2 shops i usually got stickers at give up doing inspetions. The shop I go to now is cool though.
As far as they are concerned, if there is no leaks, it's not rediculously loud (no mufflers), and there's cats under there and it passes the sniffer test , it's legal.
The green handshake helps. Well worth the effort.
If it's the noise issue, they make baffles you can shove up inside your tips to quiet the noise down.
Unless they have a decible meter and a stock lightning next to you, that can't compare stock for stock. If they bust your ***** for that, then they are just *******s.
As far as they are concerned, if there is no leaks, it's not rediculously loud (no mufflers), and there's cats under there and it passes the sniffer test , it's legal.
The green handshake helps. Well worth the effort.
If it's the noise issue, they make baffles you can shove up inside your tips to quiet the noise down.
Unless they have a decible meter and a stock lightning next to you, that can't compare stock for stock. If they bust your ***** for that, then they are just *******s.
Originally Posted by tallimeca
Unless they have a decible meter and a stock lightning next to you, that can't compare stock for stock. If they bust your ***** for that, then they are just *******s.
I've brought all my vehicles for service , purchased several vehicles and referred many people, to this dealership. I guess that doesn't make a difference. That really pisses me off.
I'll look into the baffels.



