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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:20 AM
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I know you folks are getting bored with this forum.....

Some of you are left from those who bought Lightnings when they were the best there was to offer. Some of us have been fortunate to get into the game, but a bit later. There are still some questions to be answered. Maybe the have already been answered. Maybe a search could have answered the question. Maybe, but some people are looking for a more direct answer. One from today, and not from three years ago, even though it may still be accutate today.

Tuning. I recently recieved my SCT XCAL2. I'm ready to load my tunes. My tuner tells me that to get the most of my tumes and to prevent damage to the clutches in my transmission I should upgrade the "line valve".

I'm not looking for a debate into who can provide the best solution for my transmission. I want to know if my transmission can handle a short bit of driving with the tuning and what kind of a deal I'm looking at to upgrade the "valve body"(line valve mod)?.

I read that a bunch of you are tired of answering the same questions. I'd guess that there are still a few of you that are still enthusiastic about your F150SVT. You mind going over this again?
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:57 AM
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from reading here and other sites: increasing line pressures in the tranny is not good (i.e. line valve mod). Good read below in case you missed it:
http://www.chickenears.com/accumulator.htm

I am one of the many believers in the FTVB (have it in my L and HD-F150). Also, I kept the STOCK setting for my tranny when I had a dyno/tune using a Predator.

Got mine from chikenears.
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 04:00 AM
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INcreasing line pressure is done in the tune. The line mod valve does basically the same thing as the FTVB. Both the VB and the LMV are easy to swap. If you have a lift its a 20 minute job. Drain transfluid. Drop trans pan. Un do the four I think screws that hold the VB in. Either put new VB in, or swap LMV and resinstall. Put'er back together drive down neighborhood street at heavy throttle and bark tires going into second gear. Practice this until you can time it just right, so you shift into secod right as your truck is passing the old lady next to you leaving the stop light, and bark tires right next to her, scaring her off the side of the road and running over the crack addict bumming for change at the next stop light.

Hope this helps....I'm sure someone can find a or give you a better description.
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 08:16 AM
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I'm like Drew Barrymore in that movie, I wake up everyday forgetting every thing that ever happen before, ask me the same question everyday, and I'll always give an answer

Using the truck without the Tranny Mod is fine for a while, schitt I sprayed the schitt out of mine for years, and was running 11's long before I ever did it.
But once you do it, you'll wonder why you waited so long, it's that great a Mod

Basically it comes down to this.
The factory "soft mushy shifting" equals un-nessesary slipping between gears, thats ok for a stock Lightning and comfort "I guess", but as your truck gets faster and faster, stronger and stronger, you need to provide positive shifting, and prevent the slipping (and extra heat that goes along with the slipping). So basically it's a much needed Mod as you get faster, and it will actually help prolong the life of your transmission. But of course the best part of it is you get to go sideways everytime you shift a gear, WOO HOO !!!


Here's my old "How To" on it. It's a very easy straight foward Mod to do.

 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 10:58 AM
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Thanks guys. I'm going to load the tunes and order transmission upgrades too.

Originally Posted by whip
...Practice this until you can time it just right, so you shift into secod right as your truck is passing the old lady next to you leaving the stop light, and bark tires right next to her, scaring her off the side of the road and running over the crack addict bumming for change at the next stop light.
That would just be mean! Poor crack addict.
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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There is a common misconception that Line mod valves are BAD and Vale bodies are good ...

Thats tough to swallow since one of the biggest parts of an aftermarket valve body is an aftermarket line mod valve..

Its marketing BS to make one good and one bad.. One is good and another better would be easier to swallow
My $0.02
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Old May 20, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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Ya what Doug just said

A little FYI,
The Vinmister ran ONLY a Line Mod Valve FOR YEARS
AMOF he prob made HUNDREDS of runs on his 100% STOCK TRANSMISSION with a line mod valve, and yes even 10's. And when he did switched to a built trans, his factory trans was still working PERFECT. Thats the truth the whole truth and I'm sticking to my story
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wittom
. . . I read that a bunch of you are tired of answering the same questions. I'd guess that there are still a few of you that are still enthusiastic about your F150SVT. . .
I don't see how the first concept relates to the second.

I have been on these boards almost daily since May 2002. I have spent more hours than I can count preparing a comprehensive Web site collecting Lightning-related information for others. By any reasonable definition of the word, I am still "enthusiastic" about my truck, and about sharing information relating to Lightnings.

But I since the beginning, I have never been "enthusiastic" about attempting to provide information to those too lazy to attempt to inform themselves to at least a reasonable degree about the topic before posting a question.

BTW, opening a request for help with a salvo of semi-confrontational remarks is probably not the best approach.
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver_2000
There is a common misconception that Line mod valves are BAD and Vale bodies are good ...

Thats tough to swallow since one of the biggest parts of an aftermarket valve body is an aftermarket line mod valve..

Its marketing BS to make one good and one bad.. One is good and another better would be easier to swallow
My $0.02
Doug
Gregg Evans' explanation
 
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Old May 20, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
BTW, opening a request for help with a salvo of semi-confrontational remarks is probably not the best approach.
I can't argue with that, but there have been more replies, more quickly than my previous posts in this section.

Had I waited till this morning I may have choosen a different approch. For some reason I felt compelled to post the question last night after being out. Maybe asking a question can be done better without a "few" beers in me. I'll keep that in mind.

I do appreciate the responses. It sets my mind at ease a bit.

Actually, I plugged the tuner in today and loaded a tune. All I can say is stock sucks.
 

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Old May 20, 2006 | 11:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
BIG surprise that the guy who sells the Most expensive option is downplaying the lesser options. The guy who talks the loudest or uses the most syllables isn't always right.

I have pictures somewhere of the rusted internals of a FT VB - How trans fluid coated trans parts get rusty is mystery. Of course the FT VB has the end caps installed back wards so you cant open it to see the rusted parts. I'm sure that its well designed and well intentioned BUT no matter how much better the design is how can parts that are designed to slide work better rusted ?

In my opinion the quality went down as the tyranny's and parts were assembled by others ....

Doug
 
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Old May 21, 2006 | 12:41 AM
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Nothing wrong with asking a question that has been answered many times. It’s really quite simple, if there are some who do not wish to answer it they can simply bypass the post and refrain from stupid comments…

While I agree its great to search I would also agree that if the answer is not recent, as within a few months old, its always best to ask again and get the most recent and accurate information.

What was accurate and perhaps considered the best a few months ago can very well be old outdated information and that goes for websites with static information that is not dated as to when that information was actually posted…
 
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Old May 21, 2006 | 01:33 PM
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I really don't understand all this GREGG EVANS BASHING!

He had a great product. Sold the product to Jasper. Pursuant to the agreement with Jasper he is extremely limited in what he can do with the MB.


Sure people who bought the MB prior to the Jasper deal are having issues, but there is a provision through Jasper to follow.


I always found his information very good, hell this is what he does for a living. I even got ahold of one of his "R" Valve bodies. Never had a problem with it and to this day still think it is one of the best mods I ever put on my truck.

Now a major tuner is using a different product and Gregg's products get bashed. Which is better? I'll never know because I have no plans of changing the trannys. I just know what I have works and has NEVER given me any problems.

I'm not cheerleading, Just stating my opinions and facts as I interpret them.
 
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Old May 21, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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Three letters guys


B T S

Man that is one sweet box
 
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