Lets talk 60' times
I'm not trying to be rude.. but it doesn't matter what your engine is making peak HP. It's all about the area under the curve.
Especially at lower RPMS, such as a launch. Check your previous dyno sheets, with an updated one and compare the power you are making down low.
Also, Everyone here seems to think a FLAT A/F line over RPMS is the best. It simply is NOT! It might be the safest, but not the best.
At low RPM's you can be lean, remember it's a combination of a/f, timing, engine speed, air density, etc... that factors into detonation, causing the a/f to prematurly ignite. As the RPM's go up, your a/f curve should obviously come down.
Launching, If you aren't spinning, you don't have a traction issue. plain and simple.
There is no such thing as too much traction. For some reason, beit mechanical, skill, or programming your truck doesn't have the power to pull a short time.
Here's something to think about.
I ran a 12.5 at 110 with slicks.
Then I ran a 12.7 at 110 with F1's.
(back to back, same day, same track)
I did notice removing the front sway bar helped ALOT!
Especially at lower RPMS, such as a launch. Check your previous dyno sheets, with an updated one and compare the power you are making down low.
Also, Everyone here seems to think a FLAT A/F line over RPMS is the best. It simply is NOT! It might be the safest, but not the best.
At low RPM's you can be lean, remember it's a combination of a/f, timing, engine speed, air density, etc... that factors into detonation, causing the a/f to prematurly ignite. As the RPM's go up, your a/f curve should obviously come down.
Launching, If you aren't spinning, you don't have a traction issue. plain and simple.
There is no such thing as too much traction. For some reason, beit mechanical, skill, or programming your truck doesn't have the power to pull a short time.
Here's something to think about.
I ran a 12.5 at 110 with slicks.
Then I ran a 12.7 at 110 with F1's.
(back to back, same day, same track)
I did notice removing the front sway bar helped ALOT!
Originally Posted by l-menace
I'm not trying to be rude.. but it doesn't matter what your engine is making peak HP. It's all about the area under the curve.
Especially at lower RPMS, such as a launch. Check your previous dyno sheets, with an updated one and compare the power you are making down low.
Also, Everyone here seems to think a FLAT A/F line over RPMS is the best. It simply is NOT! It might be the safest, but not the best.
At low RPM's you can be lean, remember it's a combination of a/f, timing, engine speed, air density, etc... that factors into detonation, causing the a/f to prematurly ignite. As the RPM's go up, your a/f curve should obviously come down.
Launching, If you aren't spinning, you don't have a traction issue. plain and simple.
There is no such thing as too much traction. For some reason, beit mechanical, skill, or programming your truck doesn't have the power to pull a short time.
Here's something to think about.
I ran a 12.5 at 110 with slicks.
Then I ran a 12.7 at 110 with F1's.
(back to back, same day, same track)
I did notice removing the front sway bar helped ALOT!
Especially at lower RPMS, such as a launch. Check your previous dyno sheets, with an updated one and compare the power you are making down low.
Also, Everyone here seems to think a FLAT A/F line over RPMS is the best. It simply is NOT! It might be the safest, but not the best.
At low RPM's you can be lean, remember it's a combination of a/f, timing, engine speed, air density, etc... that factors into detonation, causing the a/f to prematurly ignite. As the RPM's go up, your a/f curve should obviously come down.
Launching, If you aren't spinning, you don't have a traction issue. plain and simple.
There is no such thing as too much traction. For some reason, beit mechanical, skill, or programming your truck doesn't have the power to pull a short time.
Here's something to think about.
I ran a 12.5 at 110 with slicks.
Then I ran a 12.7 at 110 with F1's.
(back to back, same day, same track)
I did notice removing the front sway bar helped ALOT!
both of my 01's always cut good 60's
running 11.8's to 11.9's , i always cut 1.61's to 1.63's with no converter,
only susupension mods on both trucks were truck traks and thats it
i will be trying out my stall pretty soon, hoping to go 1.5's
not trying anything else with the suspension yet though, truck in it's natural state seems to hook good
sometimes i'm thinking everybody is overthinking our suspensions
heres my 11.82 run, just squats and goes
right click and save
http://www.new-used-ford-cars-trucks...m/beef1182.mpg
running 11.8's to 11.9's , i always cut 1.61's to 1.63's with no converter,
only susupension mods on both trucks were truck traks and thats it
i will be trying out my stall pretty soon, hoping to go 1.5's
not trying anything else with the suspension yet though, truck in it's natural state seems to hook good
sometimes i'm thinking everybody is overthinking our suspensions
heres my 11.82 run, just squats and goes
right click and save
http://www.new-used-ford-cars-trucks...m/beef1182.mpg
Originally Posted by tallimeca
His problem is tires plain and simple. Bet my life. Swap tires with someone and let it rip and you will see.
I bet you a round if you ever come back home you bum!!!
I bet you a round if you ever come back home you bum!!!

well
I dont know about that,I run caltrak's and the same tires he is running and I have a bunch of 1.5 60's oh and i still have 3.55's. beef, when you launch your truck do you bring it up on the converter or just mash it from an idle?
Hoosier 28 x 10 x 16, C07 compound. That's what you want.
Originally Posted by bad00
I dont know about that,I run caltrak's and the same tires he is running and I have a bunch of 1.5 60's oh and i still have 3.55's. beef, when you launch your truck do you bring it up on the converter or just mash it from an idle?
Whip 373s and a convertor will make a world of difference. With all the power you are blowing through your convertor, its got alot of life on it a new stock convertor will do a better job but you got some miles on yours. I would think you would see consistent high 1.5's-low 1.6's with gears and a convertor.
JimIII
JimIII
Originally Posted by JimIII@jdm
Whip 373s and a convertor will make a world of difference. With all the power you are blowing through your convertor, its got alot of life on it a new stock convertor will do a better job but you got some miles on yours. I would think you would see consistent high 1.5's-low 1.6's with gears and a convertor.
JimIII
JimIII

Thanks for all the help guys. I have a few things I'm going to try this weekend. First...my hot street program. Next, more air. Last...leaving at different rpm's.
Don...I have no doubt these tires are hurting me. Unfortunatly working 7-730 7 days a week doesn't give me much time to get some new ones. That will be about a month.
I'm undecided about the front swaybar. I would like to try it...I just don't have the time or place (living in a hotel) to do it now. Anyway...I will post results on friday night or saturday morning!
Originally Posted by whip
OK guys. I need some help setting up my suspension. My truck makes 500+hp, I have QA-1's out back, JDM traction bars, and 28x14.5 QTP's. I also have a 2400 stall converter. I can't seem to get better than 1.7 short times. I don't spin at all. I have been running 16psi on the tires, and my QA-1's at setting 2. Should I put more air in until I start to get spin? Should I stiffen/loosen my shocks? I assume since I'm not getting spin, stiffening things up would be quicker, am I right in this thinking? What RPM should I launch at? My truck is an 00, so I still have the stock 3.55's, I know that hurts me, but don't plan on changing. I used to be able to get 1.84's on nitto's with less power, so I think I should be able to get wayyy better than 1.7's with 500hp and full slicks. Any ideas?
Stay with your 3:55s. Pulling 1.5X 60 foot times will not be a problem with a good preped track. Most of the time when you go to a track with no events scheduled other than the normal test & tune the track is crap. During a major event(s) track will get real sticky.
I'm running 3:55s and until I added the turbo 1.5X 60 foot time were real common, however now that I added a couple more "toys" we will have much better 60s, much better....
Main thing is work on your launch and don't worry about trying to cut a perfect light till your 60s improves.
Last edited by jarmstro; Mar 21, 2006 at 08:31 PM.
Originally Posted by whip
I GOT a new convertor you Bum!!! Check out the pics that JULIE sent me of my truck....like prego.....its in there!
Thanks for all the help guys. I have a few things I'm going to try this weekend. First...my hot street program. Next, more air. Last...leaving at different rpm's.
Don...I have no doubt these tires are hurting me. Unfortunatly working 7-730 7 days a week doesn't give me much time to get some new ones. That will be about a month.
I'm undecided about the front swaybar. I would like to try it...I just don't have the time or place (living in a hotel) to do it now. Anyway...I will post results on friday night or saturday morning!
Thanks for all the help guys. I have a few things I'm going to try this weekend. First...my hot street program. Next, more air. Last...leaving at different rpm's.
Don...I have no doubt these tires are hurting me. Unfortunatly working 7-730 7 days a week doesn't give me much time to get some new ones. That will be about a month.
I'm undecided about the front swaybar. I would like to try it...I just don't have the time or place (living in a hotel) to do it now. Anyway...I will post results on friday night or saturday morning!
Originally Posted by tallimeca
I do, because I've had these same tires on my truck. Never cut a good 60 with them. Not to mention they have some years on them now and have traveled all over.
Hoosier 28 x 10 x 16, C07 compound. That's what you want.
Hoosier 28 x 10 x 16, C07 compound. That's what you want.
yeah
I respectfully disagree. In his first thread he mentions that he does not spin at all. SO it appears there isn't a traction issue, but a launch technique/power issue.
Watch what happens when he puts on a set of full hoosier slicks and launches a little higher....


