I've been wandering over at the LS1 Forum. The fellas at that board never cease to amaze me. A sense of denial is present at all times when the "SVT Lightning" topic comes to the surface.

The GM boys really seem to have a great respect for our beautiful trucks, which is terrific, but on a side note i've noticed they really are having a hard time believing they could have there behinds handed to them by a truck. Oh what denial will do to the soul. It's a chronic disease on that message board. The flame wars are indicative of the mentality there. I love this board we have.

The information that we exchange here is really great. I don't post all that much, but I read every word. I try to stay involved by asking questions since I don't have the ability to answer many. I live in CT, and have not met one person with a Lightning. I sure wish I lived near some of you guys.

I have read a lot about the LS1's having trouble with our Lightnings & the GMC Syclone, which made it's debut in 1991 @ 3000 produced. Here's a few postings to read for enjoyment. I know some of you will get a kick out of it.

1:Syclone Vs LS1 http://206.139.32.21/ls1forum/Forum1/HTML/006425.html

2:Video of Syclone Smoking LS1 SS http://atp.sjweb.net/camaross/syvsss.mov

3:LS1 owner amazed by ET of a Lightning he saw race. http://206.139.32.21/ls1forum/Forum2/HTML/011136.html

4:LS1 Owner "Struck by Lightning" http://206.139.32.21/ls1forum/Forum16/HTML/000952.html

5:LS1 Owner Get's his Booty handed to him! http://206.139.32.21/ls1forum/Forum16/HTML/000984.html

I even posted at the other board. *Evil Grin* Take a look around if you guys have a chance. It helps me to really appreciate the bond we all share on this board.

Take Care,
Mike




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Death called while you were out, so I gave him your pager number.

• 1999.5 Black SVT Lightning
• (Lowered by Roush soon)
• (Filter charger kit soon)
• (Many mods coming soon)
• (I could keep doing this all night could'nt I)
• CD Changer,
• Tonneau Cover,
• Class III Tow Hitch.

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/pontiacmuscle/contact.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/pontiacmuscle/mycar.html

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We all beena lookin at them lightnings, anna we kinda been liken em, we jus kant allhavem. But they are is deffffinatly cool!!!!!Maybe nex yeer. Gottta workon my ollady an see washesays..........Wannahavit!!!!

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2000f150 Lariat Supercab Flareside 4X4 Black 5.4 engine Leather Captains 3.55 Limited-slip and all the goodies, just ordered,traded my 99 f250 superduty Lariat V-10. Wife drives a 98 Navigator 4X4. Had a 97 Lariat 4x4 supercab,gettin a 2001 Excurision(hope they got the foot pedal ajustment) ......... Toy: 91 Heritage Softail Classic/lowered and chromed LIvin in the USA!

 

Hey Mettalic Blue,I remember speaking to Snorman that night.I must admit that I love my SVT has been a topic for some time over on the Chevy board. Hopefully next week I could put this baby in the 12`s.

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99 SVT Lightning
BLK. #1476 5/20/99
2 Chamber Flowmasters
Downs Air Intake
B.F.Goodrich Drag T/A`s
Superchips
A-pillar Phantom Boost Guage
Redline Water Wetter
Sportmaster Flip tonneau
Tow package
CD changer

Best run to date
13.064 @105.33
N.O.S. (on order)

"Empty Pockets Racing"Drag Race Team NJ-DE

 

I think I riled them up. *opps*

Metallic Blue *Big Grin*

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Death called while you were out, so I gave him your pager number.

• 1999.5 Black SVT Lightning
• (Lowered by Roush soon)
• (Filter charger kit soon)
• (Many mods coming soon)
• (I could keep doing this all night could'nt I)
• CD Changer,
• Tonneau Cover,
• Class III Tow Hitch.

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/pontiacmuscle/contact.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/pontiacmuscle/mycar.html

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Uh oh...Look what I found. These LS1 guys sure are fun. I found another group of posts.

1: LS1 finds another excuse http://web.camaross.com/bb/Forum7/HTML/001740.html

2: LS1 "Wow what was that? It went by quick" http://web.camaross.com/bb/Forum16/HTML/008411.html

3: Sure you beat him. uh huh..yup. http://web.camaross.com/bb/Forum18/HTML/001509.html

Enjoy the reading guys. I can't believe how silly those boyz are at the other boards.

Mike


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Death called while you were out, so I gave him your pager number.

• 1999.5 Black SVT Lightning
• (Lowered by Roush soon)
• (Filter charger kit soon)
• (Many mods coming soon)
• (I could keep doing this all night could'nt I)
• CD Changer,
• Tonneau Cover,
• Class III Tow Hitch.

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/pontiacmuscle/contact.html

http://www.angelfire.com/ct/pontiacmuscle/mycar.html

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Hey guys, Sal here. You want Lightning vs LS1 vs Typhoon? How's this for you.. Went to the track today. Took the Lightning, there were some LS1 guys (who were from the LS-1 board as well) and there was a Typhoon that I coaxed into racing me. The two LS-1 guys has some minor goodies and they were both going in the 12.5x range. I was running consistant 13.38 -13.40s most of the day. The Nittos were really HOOKING. Was pulling 1.90s 60-fts all day, with a best of 1.92. Weather was decent, but there was a pretty strong headwind As for the Typhoon, I saw him make some 13.50 passes, so I figured a race between us would be good. He agreed, and off to the lanes we went. I took him off the line no problem, and was ahead of him the entire race. At the traps, I was about 1 1/2 truck lenghts ahead. Then we get out timeslips. I went 13.46 and he went 13.30. What? How the heck did that happen? The correct truck number were on the slips, but I have no idea how that could be right. The ETs must have been reversed somehow. He never even got next to me. Oh well, I beat him, that's all that matters He said his truck was all stock, and it seemed so.

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SAL
13.35@103mph
All stock with PSP 99 Lightning Chip and Filter Kit

Power Surge Performance--- Your SOURCE for SVT Lightning EFI Tuning and Performance!! http://members.aol.com/NLOCsvt/svt.html

 

oh man that suk's! well as long as he knows you smoked him thats all that matters. Are you sure that you just didnt beat him from the traps, & if the the of you had left at the exact same time he would have won? What were you reaction times is what I am asking here. You might have had a better reaction time off the line, but he had a faster time?

 

I think it's getting out of hand over there @ LS1.com Take a look for yourself. Tell me when I should cut back cause I have no self control of my own *Grin*

1: Love Teasing Those LS1 Boyz. http://206.139.32.21/ls1forum/Forum16/HTML/001114.html

 

Hey Met Blue, Sal here. There's quite the flaming going on in that last post you just put up. You will notice a member named Weekendtoy. Today he posted that he spent the day bull****ting with a 99 Lightning owner at the track. That was me. Real nice guy, running his dads 99SS. The car had some bolt on goodies, including a convertor. He was running 12.5-12.6s. The way I look at it, a STOCK 99 Lightning isn't going to beat a STOCK 99SS, given that all variables are equal. Yes, I've spanked a few on the street, but not when my truck was stock. I love my truck, but it's not going to beat a modifed LS1 without alot of help But one thing is for sure, even those GM guys take a liking to the 99 Lightnings, and even if they are faster, they admit the Lightning is still "impressive" for a 5000lb truck.

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SAL
13.35@103mph
All stock with PSP 99 Lightning Chip and Filter Kit

Power Surge Performance--- Your SOURCE for SVT Lightning EFI Tuning and Performance!! http://members.aol.com/NLOCsvt/svt.html

 

I think I finally ended the war. I decided to call it quits at LS1. I figured it would be easier to get a few guys on our side, instead of pissing them off.

It doesn't hurt to have the support of the LS1 guys. A lot of the fella's at that board have a lot to offer us guys over here so here's the posting to end it all.

"I think this topic is ready to die. I'm glad. I started the topic to just have some fun and tease a little, but in all out honesty I love F-bodies & Mustangs. I almost bought one, but I bought my Lightning instead, and for many different reasons beyond 1/4 mile ET's.
I would love to learn from any of you. I'm sure everyone here at LS1.com, & the guys from F-150 online, will agree that it feels great to have a bunch of informative, experienced people to turn to with questions when we go to make modifications to our vehicles. Sorry If I pushed any permanent buttons.

Just remember I'll still give ya a good run *GRIN*. Hope to meet some of you local guys from CT & Western MA in the spring."

Take Care,
Metallic Blue

If that doesn't put this to rest, then we have some serious problems. For now it's over.

 

Hey Metallic!!!!! I got your Lightning killer, right here, and it ain't no LS1.

LOL, just kidding man. You troublemaker. hehe
Seriously, like Sal said, neither the Lightning or a Cobra for that matter, have anything for an LS1 if they are all stock with NO modifications. However, I have beaten them several times at the track when they turn a faster time than me but I get to the finish line first.
Peace--- Mad`


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97 Cobra, N2O, 12.17 @113
65 Nova, 12.69 @110
57 Chevy, 2dr., original
MADS` Hot Rods

 

It's getting rough again. I created a monster. better go read it.
http://206.139.32.21/ls1forum/Forum1.../001114-2.html

 

Thats great! I know this guy who has a 1970 Cutluss that runs low 13s 1/4mi that he paid less than 3k for. What a POS to ride in though. So,the point is really, whet do you get for your money.

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Michael Gunterman
San Jose, CA.
Silver 2000 Lightning (on order)
1994 Bronco XLT, 6"lift
1968 Camero,327 4-speed
1967 Mustang GT, K-code coupe
1967 Mustang Fastback,351C 4-speed,14.6@94mph 1/4mi
1966 Mustang Coupe, 289 auto, 14.2@98mph 1/4 mi.

 

HI!... I'm not trying to start a flame with the LS1 guys but I have been reading this particular thread for some time now. The one most important thing that I have noticed by reading threads here and on LS1 that everyone is forgetting is that the LIGHTNING weighs 5000lbs. (with most drivers) and the CAMARO weighs around 3500lbs (with driver). Thats a 1500lbs difference. So if you do the math every 100lbs you can remove from a vehicle it drops 1/10 of your 1/4 mile time. So techniqly the LIGHTNING should be 1.5 seconds slower than the CAMERO, BUT IT'S NOT!! I'm not totally sure but I think the CAMERO is 320h.p for "99"? The LIGHTNING is 360h.p. Thats a 40h.p difference! Most of the LIGHTNINGS are running high 13's stock and the CAMARO's are running mid 13's stock. Espeically with the aerodynamics of the LIGHTNING (a brick wall comes to mind) it's amazing that it runs that quick! So if you go by power to weight ratio the LIGHTNING will win hands down every time. Just think if the LIGHTNING weighed 3500lbs, it would run low 12's "NO PROBLEM" !!! Just my two cents. Sorry for the long post guys but it just bugged me that no one stated the obvious. I'm just sick of all the bull***** that the LS1 guys are saying when a 5000lbs "TRUCK" is competing with their 3500lbs "CARS" (and winning I might add)

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NEAL [ the horsepower freak ] NEWMAN
'99' F-150 XLT SPORT, oxford white, reg cab shortbox stepside,5.4, auto, 4.10L.S, captain's chairs, bedliner, GTS carbon fiber headlight covers, **** CEPECK clear halogen driving lights, GTS slotted tailight covers (painted oxford white), FORD locking lug nuts, tinted windows,true duel exhaust with 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipes and FLOWMASTER 3 chamber mufflers with 3' tailpipes exiting before the rear wheel like the LIGHTNING, HELLWIG rear stabalizer bar, AUTOMETER guage pod and tranny temp guage, custom fabricated air intake trac and huge K/N filter, TPS mod, BELLTECH 2-inch rear drop, custom programed SUPERCHIP.

FUTURE MODS : JBA headers, power pulleys, twin electric fans, traction bars, BAUMANN ENGINEERING shift kit, and a KENNE BELL BLOWZILLA supercharger.
ESTIMATED H.P TO DATE : 310H.P / 405ft/lbs of torque.

 

Couldn't help myself guys, I had to add to it over there!!!

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PFA
'99 WHITE LIGHTNIN'
#0873--1 of 866--
RHINO, Soft cover
LoJack
Valentine 1
Mobil 1
Superchip
Water Wetter
Best ET to date-13.54 @101.51MPH--10/29/99
best MPH to date-102.33

'98 Red Lincoln Continental