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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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What is the next best thing next to drop spindles

I have the bell tech drop spindles in my garage waiting to be installed but after seeing the post about the issue with the design and the non existant belltech customer service I am getting a little worry about installing them.

I bought them because I want a drop and to maintain the factory ride quality. Would like DJM lower control arms be the next best thing?

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:53 AM
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Yes, control arms are your next best option.

But I would install the spindles with the thin nuts safety wired.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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do you have any info on how to do the safey wire? Don't know much about suspensions.
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I am thinking if I do go that route I am going to take it to a machine shop like Stan suggested and get some of it shaved so I can try and get the big nut on there.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:03 PM
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Do a google on "safety wire" and you're there. Basically, you drill the nut with a small hole to pass a wire through. You then attach the other end of the wire to something nearby. You need a jig to hold the nut for drilling and a special twisting pair of pliers (vice grips will do in a pinch).
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by halflife
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We're installing a set of Western Chassis Control Arms on the Chiken Mobile today along with the Roush Kit. We might be in the weeds.

The W C control arms are well built and fit well.

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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:04 PM
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Half - you have 22's, whats the issue with the spindles? If you want to sell them, please let me know, you still have my email addy.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:04 PM
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i don't have any issues yet, as I have not tried to install them. Just a little worried with all the post about them. I am going to give them a crack but just weighing options. Plus if I want to take off my 22's like this next weekend I am going camping and going to put back on my stockers, it will become an issue. or if you get a flat you are f*cked
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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With the flat you could always move a rear wheel and tire up to the front and put the spare out back, but the camping thing, you got a good point there. I am personally really impressed with my DJM lower control arms and highly recommend them. Sure would make everything a lot easier.

Oh, and the bumpsteer. I'm running the 2" drop from the DJM lowers and Ruslow 1000lb drop coils and I don't notice it at all. I personally think it's a non-issue for %99 of L owners.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 04:07 PM
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i just have ruslow coils, and i definately have bump-steer.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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. . . Oh, and the bumpsteer. I'm running the 2" drop from the DJM lowers and Ruslow 1000lb drop coils and I don't notice it at all. I personally think it's a non-issue for %99 of L owners.
Are you sure that you know what to feel? I have the same setup as you, and there's a whole bunch of bump steer. I don't notice it 99% of the time, just because I'm used to it. But every now and then, it wants to send you into the concrete median or into the smuck in the next lane. The faster you go, the scarier it is.

But judging from a lot of the comments about bump steer I've seen here, I think that many people confuse bump steer with a harsh ride. So many who complain about it may not be talking about the same thing either.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by halflife
do you have any info on how to do the safey wire?
Go to this pdf document a start on page 19 of 74. (Pages 19 thru 25 of 74)

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory...apter%2007.pdf



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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
Are you sure that you know what to feel? I have the same setup as you, and there's a whole bunch of bump steer. I don't notice it 99% of the time, just because I'm used to it. But every now and then, it wants to send you into the concrete median or into the smuck in the next lane. The faster you go, the scarier it is.

But judging from a lot of the comments about bump steer I've seen here, I think that many people confuse bump steer with a harsh ride. So many who complain about it may not be talking about the same thing either.
I guess I should have said I didn't notice any additional bump steer.

Yes, the truck exhibits bump steer, but it did the same thing bone stock. If there is additional bump steer, I don't see it. I certainly haven't been alarmed by anything the truck has done recently. If anything, to be honest, it has less of a tendency to wander and search all over the road now. I drive a very, very rough section of road everyday on the way to work and before the drop it seemed like the truck was just shooting for the ditch at every possible oportunity. It used to follow every groove and take every rut, bump, and ripple as a chance to wake me up and make me fear for the worst. I just assumed it was a side effect of the giant tires.

I honestly think the truck is much, much better now that it's this low. The CG is so much lower and it's so much stiffer, that it's enough to more than make up for any negative side effects of the geometry change.

I'm still waiting on my Hellwig rear sway bar, and even running without one she is just flat out glued to the road. I took it out tonight on my favorite section of twisty road and it just refused to break traction at either end. Now, I admit I'm not pushing the limit like you or Ruslow do, but neither is anyone else here. All this fear of extra bumpsteer is unfounded for %99 of us. Even as a %1'r you're happy with your DJM arms, that's saying something.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2005 | 10:58 PM
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With the flat you could always move a rear wheel and tire up to the front and put the spare out back...
I think that is a bad idea, unless the spare is the same size (height) as the wheel/tire on the other rear wheel. Otherwise, you end up turning the axles at different rates, and its bad for the posi (limited slip differential).
 
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