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Old Aug 4, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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If you know where to go you can find the same stainless steel hanger bracket that everyone uses for $15 and the same CNC'ed billet aluminum adapter for $25 cash American. Makes for a $90 cold air kit including the $50 filter...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 06:04 AM
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oh oh oh please tell me where.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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"We worked with True Flow to develop a 12" filter to fit the Lightning and the Harley Trucks"

You mean this is not a custom kit you helped develop?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
Depends on what you mean by "work." Flow more air? If they are open cell foam, probably. Ingest more dirt? If they are open cell foam, probably.

Air filters are not complicated devices. Ones that flow more do so at the expense of filtering capability. Like K&N says, its products filter better the more junked up they get. Why? Because until they get junked up (i.e., partially clogged), the pores are so large that a basketball can get through.

I'm not knocking any of them. But the best filtering filter is the one that came on the truck. That's why it flows less than a K&N drop-in. It's the classic performance versus reliability tradeoff.
A couple things:

All filters filter better as they get "junked up".

Some filtering media are actually pretty good at both flowing and filtering. I almost went to work at a filter company and they put most of their work into developing more efficient media.

The best filter is one with a very "clean" media and an extremely large surface area. Want a filter set-up that's as clean or cleaner than the stock filter and flows more? Figure out how to get 2 of them into one housing!

These large cylindrical or conical filters do have large surface areas and thus they really don't need "high flow" media.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:38 AM
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Intresting, I like it.

But if you have the PSP/JLP box do you still need the whole kit or do you just order the filter?

31C
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 31Charlie
Intresting, I like it.

But if you have the PSP/JLP box do you still need the whole kit or do you just order the filter?

31C
All you need is the filter.

True Flow Filter

Tim
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Shooter
oh oh oh please tell me where.
Shoot me an e-mail or Private Message and I can let you know...
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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The open cell foam filter will be excellent for trapping dirt / other particulates and providing superior air flow. That's why motorcross, desert and enduro bikes use them, as well as rally cars. It's a proven design. The really sticky honey-like oil that's used with the filter is the key to it's wide-range particle trapping ablilties.

I've just bought one. I think this product is a godsend for those of us who require a high volume filtering solution. We are very fortunate to have a mfg. to produce this class of product for our vehicle. Seriously!
 

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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
But the best filtering filter is the one that came on the truck. That's why it flows less than a K&N drop-in. It's the classic performance versus reliability tradeoff.
No.
My perspective on the stock filter's design goal is this: It's inexpensive to make, modular, flows more air than the stock application requires, exceeds filtration standards and is a one-step throwaway maintenance item. Typical maintenance on a foam filter is 1-3 hours, from cleaning, drying, oil soak etc. A reusable filter requires too much maintenance overhead for a end user of a street vehicle to be a practical factory item.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 01:20 PM
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I’m for anything that flows and keeps my oil cleaner.

With an S&B setup oil changes were black, extremely black, causing frequent oil changes (using Mobile 1 this got expensive) and frequent filter cleaning. When I switched to a 7-inch True Flow (last year) I had no difference in power or sound, and I know the engine is cleaner because of the change in oil color alone. I’m no engine builder or tuner but could bad filtration be a large cause of our impeller ware? And what’s going on after the blower if it eats coatings?

Here’s a link to an interview done at SEMA Off Road last year with True Flow and Truck World TV, one of the reasons I switched…

http://truckworldtv.tenmagazines.com...lid=863&sid=88

Thanks Tim for working with True Flow to produce the 12-inch version, I love it! I bought two, one for daily use and one for show …

Tom
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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you said $49.50 on here, but i went on your site to order one, and they are listed for $56.98. what's the deal?
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by brain bypass
you said $49.50 on here, but i went on your site to order one, and they are listed for $56.98. what's the deal?
brain bypass,

Shortly after we put them on the website I was contacted by True Flow and informed that I was under MAP pricing and had to raise it. So, a few guys got better deals. It's still a great deal for this filter.

We have one S&B 12" filter left and will sell it cheap, $35. Call if you want it.

Tim
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 01:46 PM
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thanks, but i already have one of those, i want the foam! oh-well, the price increase isn't too bad.
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Tim/Andy...I just tried to order the True Flow Filter as well as your Intake Tube on line but had a problem completing the processing due to "invalid card number"? The card number was indeed correct, however, could not go back!! Should I just re-order from scratch, or what is to prevent this from happening again or duplicating the order?
email me at: edvosyka@mindspring.com

Thanks!
 
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Old Aug 5, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Eds 01 Lightnin
Tim/Andy...I just tried to order the True Flow Filter as well as your Intake Tube on line but had a problem completing the processing due to "invalid card number"? The card number was indeed correct, however, could not go back!! Should I just re-order from scratch, or what is to prevent this from happening again or duplicating the order?
email me at: edvosyka@mindspring.com

Thanks!
Ed, It was a glitch in the system I guess. Anyway, you're taken care of now. You'll love both pieces!

Thanks, it was a pleasure talking to you.

Tim
 
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