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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 06:37 PM
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Someone postes this info on the other thread. It seemed to get ignored...

whoever posted that was obviously a little before their time to be appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 08:35 PM
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I'll trust anything outta Stan's backyard or Tim's ...

Y'all haven't ever driven a car that lost the tie rod or
spindle have you? It's scarey as he!! ... I wouldn't
run this setup to the corner grocery. Sorry, being
unsafe just isn't worth the ride OR the bling.
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by TrackBeast
For added safety this is what I will do for my Belltech install.

I doubt I will have to remove the new spindles in the future. I will install safety wire to the grade 8 slim nut but just in case I will add 5 minute epoxy to the nut. I tried this once and it becomes almost impossible to remove without damaging the nut itself. The only way to remove the nut is to heat it up with a torch.

This may be a little extreme, but it will give me some added peace of mind and I am the only one doing work on my truck. So in the remote chance that I need to remove this part, I know that it must be heated first.

TB

I will tell you the MOST correct way to fix this BIG over sight that bell tech did [and this is how I would do it]other than NOT running them!
Take them to a machine shop[tool and die one]NOT an automotive one!have them spot face the surface where the nut is seated down about .090 to .100.[that is max otherwise you might run out of threads on the ball joint!!that way you can use the stock castle nut you more than likely will need to redrill for the cotter key,but that is easy once on the vehicle.By spot facing you are loosing mater rite at the nut surface but since you have a bigger base surface the strength loss is small.Plus if they use a end mill with a raduis on it you don't gain any stress risers.

JUST remember when you see bell tech do this operation in the future[and I am sure you will] WHO told you first!! Stan
 
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Old Aug 8, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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Thank you for the great suggestion Stan. The right way is always the best way and the best option is to use the full size castle nut.

Off to buddy at the machine shop.

TB
 
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Old Aug 9, 2005 | 10:17 PM
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when you see bell tech do this operation in the future[and I am sure you will] WHO told you first!![/b] Stan[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ruslow]I will tell you the MOST correct way to fix this BIG over sight that bell tech did [and this is how I would do it]other than NOT running them!

[b]JUST remember
Well, after reading your comments, I called Belltech today. I asked them if they would modify/introduce a Lightning specific part and he replied "Absolutely NOT because there is NOTHING wrong with them". I told him I was concerned about safety and that others had the same concern. His reply was "that there was allot of false information being circulated on the boards. The slim nut and the chisel on the bolt is the RIGHT way to install the part on the LIghtning as per the instructions included in the box".

I told him that I had a safety concern with that type of installation. He then replied, and I quote exactly, " IF I WAS SO CONCERNED ABOUT SAFETY THAT I SHOULDN'T BUY BELLTECH". I then told him that that was an excellent suggestion.

Well there you go right from the horses mouth or should I say the horses harse.

What a superb example of customer relations. Companies like that don't deserve to be in business. I quickly proceeded to cancel my order.

That's the end of that.

TB
 
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 11:33 PM
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back from the dead !!!.......has belltech worked out the design issues at all?

i run 20's i should not have to futz with the nut i hope

thanks guys
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 12:58 AM
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Damn...I sure wish I had slim nuts...My cup runneth over...LMAO
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 01:54 AM
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Originally Posted by pitstain
back from the dead !!!.......has belltech worked out the design issues at all? . . .
Nope. I just bought some from Summit a couple of months ago, and they are the same.

It's no big deal. Stan's solution has been implemented.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 02:07 AM
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I lost a pitman arm..drag link..whatever you wanna call it in Wyoming once...Was flyin down a county dirt rode..hit a cattle gaurd...He wasn't wearing a uniform...got lite in the saddle and upon landing....I was one handing the steer..ing wheel left and right frantically..while my *** was eattin' up leather....hit the bar ditch and off into open range I fly...Not a good way to fly...but one way....seems the cotter pin had left...and the castle nut had...gave up the fort....
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:59 AM
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They never considered to have any issues. Although they are stamped "use 18" wheels, they need to be modified to fit the stock wheels. 20" will be fine.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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Beast: did you miss this thread?

I need some advice. Thanks
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Just got back from an extended weekend late last night. I will look at it now.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2006 | 11:12 PM
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yea im all worked up over here.....i was thinking western lower and upper arms....but the spindle is an unknown in regards to my future TCE big front brakes....Todd @ TCE cant say for sure unless i get him the spindles for mockup......anyone mind sending them to him for a few days to a week? I'll pay the shipping and throw in a Cool Lightning toy....or a cheesecake from junior's of brooklyn
 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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. . . anyone mind sending them to him for a few days to a week? . . .
I'd be happy to help, Ian, but mine are at the powder coaters now. NFW I would ship them painted. Even with the special box that they ship in (which I pitched), I can't see how they wouldn't get trashed.

Take a camble, buy some, and have them shipped to Todd. You could sell them on the boards for half price or better if they don't work out. Small change for guy who can put more bucks in his rear brakes than most have in their engine mods. :santa:
 
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Old Jun 21, 2006 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Skelton
I'd be happy to help, Ian, but mine are at the powder coaters now. NFW I would ship them painted. Even with the special box that they ship in (which I pitched), I can't see how they wouldn't get trashed.

Take a camble, buy some, and have them shipped to Todd. You could sell them on the boards for half price or better if they don't work out. Small change for guy who can put more bucks in his rear brakes than most have in their engine mods. :santa:
Thanks Tim...powdercoat is pretty tough stuff but not that tough...i appreciate it though.....have you already mocked up your brembos to them?

for what i got from Todd those rear brakes were quite a steal....once they have some good road course worthy rubber at reasonable prices in 20" sizes i would reccomend you get a set of the rears....go ahead take a camble

new t-shirt to wear to the ricerocket carshows will read "My Brakes are bigger than your rims"
 
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