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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2005 | 11:57 PM
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3- NO ANTI-SIEZE!! I don't care who tells you what, do NOT put anti-sieze on the plugs in a stock head. Even Ford specifically says NOT to. If you have inserts, then you DO use anti-sieze. But dry for stock heads.
Hi Sal. I was wondering about anti-sieze. I have an 04, and the last time I changed plugs, I don't over tighten, but a couple of them were pretty stiff to break loose.

I thought no anti-sieze stresses aluminum threads because the plugs tend to grab the threads in the head when you are unscrewing them. Wouldn't anti-sieze lubricate the threads from wearing when changing plugs? If they are able to be tightened enough, is anti-sieze still bad to use?

I've always heard on all other aluminum heads, you should use anti-sieze.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 12:55 AM
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Thanks for the plug info, it seems to be the same from what I hear from others.
 

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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 01:46 AM
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You really really ( did I say that enough) don't want any kind of steel thread around the spark plugs in a 2V mod head. I'm talking about steel spark plug thread inserts. Its a heat transfer thing and I can't say that enough either.

One thing to think about. If you have thread inserts insalled.....aluminum inserts.....then you have the heat transfer of the aluminum and you you are also gaining a billet thread versus the stock cast thread. Both threads are roll formed so the billet would be much stronger and I will say this again....think heat transfer !!

They also make the inserts in copper and that would be a great solution for the 2V head.
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 07:03 PM
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Go With The Inserts

If I were you I'd go with either the inserts or the 8-9 thread heads, either would be fine. JLP knows what the heck he is doing, and he inserts all of his heads, probably incase any get overlooked, or maybe he just trusts the steel better than the aluminum. I do think the STEEL insert is better than ANY aluminum head alone, but the 8 threads will do great as well if you can find a set of newer heads. TIme-certs are proven to be the best so far in our applications. I have heard NOTHING bad about the time-cert, other steel inserts suck, but the time-cert is great. I'm sold on them.
 
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Old Jul 23, 2005 | 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by LightningTuner
The key to not having this issue is three things...

1- Check the plugs from day 1. The majority of blow outs are because FORD does not tighten the plugs on new motors right. I had three plugs in my 01 that I took out without a wratchet myself when it was new.

2- Proper plug torque. Tighten till snug, and go a 1/16 turn more. Done.

3- NO ANTI-SIEZE!! I don't care who tells you what, do NOT put anti-sieze on the plugs in a stock head. Even Ford specifically says NOT to. If you have inserts, then you DO use anti-sieze. But dry for stock heads.
I wish tuners would give us more tips like this more often!

Thank you Sal.
 
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