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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 11:37 AM
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looking at buying a wideband

i was looking at a few different models. the fjo is nice, but expensive. the dynojet model is nice, but i want one that has a digital gauge i can put in my gauge pod. the purpose is to keep an eye on my a/f while driving, so more of a warning system than a tuning device. although i should be able to datalog the a/f on these for sal to dial in my tune.

any thoughts, comments, experiences with any of these?

i was looking at the following units:

innovate:
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/...=252&page=1

plx: (either the 250 or the 300, but with the add on 2 1/16" gauge)
http://www.plxdevices.com/M-Series_productinfo.htm

aem:
http://www.aempower.com/product_ems.asp
 

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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:07 PM
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I have the Innovate set-up, but I have the LM-1, LMA-3 and the XD-1 gauge as I bought them as they came out with them. If you are really just wanting a gauge, get the XD-1 with the LC-1 for $399. It has 2 programmable outputs if you want to feed it to something like a laptop or the XCal2 for datalogging.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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that is the one i was leaning towards.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:19 PM
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Didn't know if you were aware of this or not but the dynojet gauge has a red warning light on it that you can program the box for when you want it to alert you...i.e say if your at 12.2 above 3K the red light comes on...kind of cool...
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by JeffsLightning
Didn't know if you were aware of this or not but the dynojet gauge has a red warning light on it that you can program the box for when you want it to alert you...i.e say if your at 12.2 above 3K the red light comes on...kind of cool...
didn't know about that, but i just don't like the analog gauge. i wish it had the option of a digital gauge, then i would buy it in a second.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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didn't know about that, but i just don't like the analog gauge. i wish it had the option of a digital gauge, then i would buy it in a second.

It also has a programmable analog output for external datalogging. You could make a digital readout that gets its value for display from this analog out. It may take a bit of circuit design, but that stuff is cool anyway! What is the cost difference your seeing between the digital models and the DJWBC? If its fairly close, it would likely not be worth the hassle, but for enough bills saved, it may be worth looking at.

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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:10 PM
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the wbc is more. i might be able to find it for close to the innovate unit, but i am not positive on that. why not spend less money for what i really want?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by brain bypass
the wbc is more. i might be able to find it for close to the innovate unit, but i am not positive on that. why not spend less money for what i really want?
Yep - that sounds like the best idea

I have not prices the other units, so I did not know how they compare against the WBC. The WBC has worked well for me, but I actually wanted the analog readout and was not wanting to deal with a single digital gauge in a sea on needles .

All of the units seem to perform well, from what I have heard. I only have experience with the DJ model.

Herb

BTW - on the HALO site, Phil posted some good links to some 'training' videos from LM-1. Might be worth your while to check that out - it's a bout a week old post by now.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 02:21 PM
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I just bought the XD-1 with LC-1 stand alone today. That and the JFO kits were my to top choices.

There is a JFO kit for sale on NLOC for like $500 if you are interested.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2005 | 11:15 PM
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Tech Edge (wbo2.com) has the most accurate wideband O2 meters. They use a 12 bit DAC as opposed to a 10 bit DAC which results in a 4 times greater accuracy. The LM-1 is also a good unit, but 10 bit. The Tech Edge basic 2A0 unit logs RPM 3 0-5 volt sensors (like throttle position, etc) and 3 thermisistor inputs(EGT) built into the hardware without having to purchase additional items. They also have a DIY kit for those of you that are good with a small soldering iron.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by air1kdf
Tech Edge (wbo2.com) has the most accurate wideband O2 meters. They use a 12 bit DAC as opposed to a 10 bit DAC which results in a 4 times greater accuracy. The LM-1 is also a good unit, but 10 bit. The Tech Edge basic 2A0 unit logs RPM 3 0-5 volt sensors (like throttle position, etc) and 3 thermisistor inputs(EGT) built into the hardware without having to purchase additional items. They also have a DIY kit for those of you that are good with a small soldering iron.
to bad they are in australia, although the diy kit is tempting. the assembled kit is too expnsive.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 09:06 AM
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to bad they are in australia, although the diy kit is tempting. the assembled kit is too expnsive.
Those Aussies know their stuff - I have a turbo kit on order from an Australian company
 
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Old Jun 8, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by air1kdf
Tech Edge (wbo2.com) has the most accurate wideband O2 meters. They use a 12 bit DAC as opposed to a 10 bit DAC which results in a 4 times greater accuracy. The LM-1 is also a good unit, but 10 bit. The Tech Edge basic 2A0 unit logs RPM 3 0-5 volt sensors (like throttle position, etc) and 3 thermisistor inputs(EGT) built into the hardware without having to purchase additional items. They also have a DIY kit for those of you that are good with a small soldering iron.
fyi,

the innovate lm-1 is 10-bit
the innovate lc-1 is 12 bit
 
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