This is for your info:
I had won this kit at ower local gathering in Florida for Florida SVT in Orlando last month. This kit will not fit a Lightning or F150 that uses an aftermarket trans pan!!!
I called Kenny Brown and told them the problem and I was SHOCKED by the response, "well, we won't just build you a custom one for you". My next question was why they would produce a part without doing a little more research into what Lightning owners are running on trucks. My thought was why not build two kits, one with the stock pan in mind and the other for those with aftermarket pans. Chad said it was developed for stock trucks only. He also said he would see if they would consider building a different front piece for aftermarket pans, but would not guarantee anything. I called again today , and they said they wanted me to call back in another month and they might have a decsion.
Does anyone with a Lightning even have a stock truck? Needless to say, I was very disappointed with their "customer service" per say. If you plan on ever using an aftermaket pan on your truck or have one already, this kit WILL NOT FIT.

 

I share your frustration and agree that KB's market research was lacking. But I'm not giving up on an aftermarket pan yet. I am in the process of trying a few combos to find something that works.

BTW, this topic has already been discussed here.X-factor search results

 

Thanks for the info - I was looking at these today and considering getting one...Glad I didnt, as I'm installing an aftermarket pan this weekend!

 

Wait a second, are you saying this won't clear the 4x4 deep trans pan that many of are using for the extra 1/2 quart of fluid and drain plug?

 

4x4 pan is factory, don't know on that one, I have a PNL which is designed like a Moroso pan. If you 4x4 pan is any deeper then the stock pan, I don't think it will fit.

 

in chief40al's install picsIt looks like He has the 4x4 pan and it fits ok, of course this could be considered a factory pan and not aftermarket.
Sure as Heck looks like it won't even come close to fitting with my deep Ford racing pan
Thanks for the warning razor1

 

A 4.25" deep pan is not even close. A 3.65" Moroso pan will be very close. Will likely require a spacer under the crossmember if it works at all.

 

Again, the 4x4 pan works fine...

 

Certainly not the first time around the block for ole KB.

Of course, if the market was so great then Stan would be
a rich man and we would wait for nobody to get us our fixes.

 

is the X factor very hard to produce with simple metal tools: Welder/Cutter/Grinder/Bolts? If its anything like the Mustang sub-frame connectors, it would be a pretty easy job with a little know how...


why dont people make thier own, and have a better built product?

 

1. Access to materials
2. Costs of materials
3. Costs of metal bending/forming/welding equipment
4. Costs of cover for truck due to no more room in garage
5. Costs to install 220 power for welding equipment
6. 324 trips to metal supply, Home Depot, etc.
7. Cost to prototype
8. Cost to powder coat
9. 23 more parts runs for re-working
10. Costs to strip and re-powder coat
repeat #s 9 and 10 as required

 

Guess I figured a few more L owners already had all that in the garage. Get a few measurments, run a Cad program, and pretty much have it designed. If I had access to an L with deep oil pan, T-bars and exhaust... I would give it a try, free for the owner. OH well.

 

Stan!!!

 

And on top of what Tim noted: you have to figure out some "valid" ways to "test" the effects of your device over time - to see if it "really" makes any kind of "measurable" difference to see if all the time and expense were worthwhile!