Not at all just like ambient air is not different that comes into your motor. How oxygen and fuel get into the motor is a different story. The car manufacturers have changed their designs greatly since the 50's which, unfortunately most nitrous companies haven't.

 

You mean that they no longer put NOS and Fuel into the engine or that your kit doesn't use nozzles to inject the NOS and fuel?

Wow, I guess that would be radically different!!

 

That would be correct we don't use nozzles.

Since you are sick of hearing me talk about our systems as you mentioned to me another time and I am not here to promote them keep this about nitrous facts in general.

I love when people act like nitrous injection is so simple as solenoids and spraying. There wouldn't be such a bad reputation with nitrous blowing motors if injecting was so easy and simple.

 

Rob,
Gator has not bought a kit yet. I have to assume that is a picture of Vinnie's bottle that was abducted.

 

Keep what about nitrous facts??

I simply asked a question.

I don't understand why you and Rob are saying that your system is radically different than any other...

I understand that your quality may be better than most...but the principal of injecting NOS and fuel into an engine has been around, as you say since the 50's...

Re-designing a solenoid that pulses or a progressive controller doesn't make your system radically different from say the NOS brand progressive controller!

 

 

Radically different for the current system, NO! Our new smooth progressive due out later this year. YES!

Injecting fuel with carbs has been around way before the 50's also but we know this was not the best way either and things changed. You don't need to be radically different to do things right. We still inject fuel and air into a motor which is not radically different but much more efficiently and consistantly which is what you should be focusing on.

Is this going to be like the other thread where you keep arguing nitrous with nothing technical to add? If you want to learn I'll be happy to explain but if you want to keep making pointless posts you will have to find another patsy.

 

#1) I was asking why Rob thought that this system is far different than any other system!

#2) you answered it by saying NO it isn't!

#3) I don't call that pointless!!

#4) I said injecting Fuel and NOS not fuel and AIR as you said...Could you explain how you inject air into your system??

#5) I am asking questions, not argueing....are you saying that I need to know facts inorder to ask questions?

 

Can't we all just get along, do I have to share my Wacky Weed

Fomo, I can only try and explain it how I understand the diff.
As you know I do not argue or dispute with people so all I can ask is for you to take it for what it's worth.

Yes I am a n20 nut and I have been spraying since 1979, my only complaint through the years was being consistant on spray, as you know there are A LOT of vairable that play a part, tank temp, tank pressure, correct purging, proper n20 tuning, etc.

I had great results and experience with the Zex kit and had 2 years of awesome fun with it. Yet I had peolpe telling me 24/7 I was going to blow my Truck up, the reason they claimed was I could not hammer all the power at once, I even had one Brother from right here on F150 send me a brand new Window Switch for my old system. I was also told a over and over that it's only a matter of time till a Solenoid goes bad, I was told any and all Solenoids will fail in time, it was not a Zex specific attack. Me being me, I did it my way anyway and listened to NO ONE.

Then all of a sudden a while later I met Denny in a post here.
The funny as schitt part about that is, we met the same exact way you are here. He was telling me Zex was crap and I was arguing with him and telling him to prove it. He truly pissed me off and we had quite a post going on, for quite a while, extremely simular to the way you two have lately on diff forums.
Finally I called him out and asked to put his money where his mouth was and show me. He did, I sold my other kit, and I was absolutely blown away by the smoothness of the RT Kit.

What sold me though was

#1 Only Solenoids in the world DEVELOPED to Pulse
#2 Only Solenoids in the world with a life time wrrnty (I know of)
#3 Due to the Nylon Lines, up to 150HP needs NO PURGE

Above was enough to convince me, the smoothness of the kit won me over immediately , but it was the Digital Controls later that really hooked me, (you've heard enough to know what it can do) So I did some more research and found out this.

Every other system in the world takes the 800-1200 psi and shoots it through the Solenoids and then it dead ends into this tiny winy itsy bitsy jet (inside a nozzle) with a opening the size of a strand of hair. Now me being in Pipe Valve and Ftg's for over 30 years, knows this means MASSIVE pressure drops and a very unconsistant delivery. Wereas the Race Tested Kit does something very diff. It instead takes the full pressure into the Solenoids, BUT has the jets right there where you can change them in prob under 60 sec's and then the N20 leaves the Solenooids at a much lower PSI (I'm guessing 450-600 psi) it may be less thasn that. Then instead of a nozzle, it has what they call an injector, (it looks like a nozzle, except smaller)

This lower pressure has already been jetted long before it hits the Nozzle (Injector) so instead of being choked down, it is sent through at a very nice slow even spray, and the results are truly the smoothese delivery of Nitrous I've ever experienced.

The other things they do diff, is INSIST on all lines being the shortest possible lg they can be. Then on top of that location location location is #1 priorty.

All I can say is, Life Time Wrrnty'd Pulsoids, Jets iin the Solenoids, Nylon Lines that need no Purging, Injector instead of nozzle, and the lower pressure of CONTROLLED DELIVERY really does make a diff. I hope my way of explaining it, sheds some light on the many diff's

 

Thank you Rob, Very nice explanation!

 

Rob you were actually listening to me all this time.

I'm sure you also know from your job how having braided causes turbulance because the end fittings are sized differently than the internally pipe. You get the same benefit of external line fittings as you would port matching heads to a block so you don't have that lip to cause disruption.

Here's some interesting information that I received from Highpower today. I had them flow test some custom built braided lines that I was looking into for lower hp customers that didn't want nylon or preferred braided for looks. The same length of braided line with 4AN end fittings lost 40hp worth of flow compared to the same ID of line with external fittings and no end fitting restrictions. The final numbers were 150hp worth of flow with the standard braided line set-up as most people are familiar with and 189hp with the end fittings removed. Not very efficient or the best for nitrous use having braided lines wouldn't you say? Higher hp applications over 150hp don't have a better solution yet so braided must be used.

 

fomocfan,
I spend a great deal of my day answering questions on forums, phone calls, and with e-mail inquiries, so I have a good grasp on what's what. You are not sincere about learning and your replies never make sense to what I said. That's why you will continue to get an attitude from me or instead I will just ignore you in the future.

 

I never asked you for a lesson on anything...read above...I asked about Rob's statement and he answered me...You do not need to respond to me here or anywhere...

 

Rob might...........hehe

 

Photoshop dude