Help with torquing lug nuts!
my torque wrenches havent left the drawer for lug nuts..... impact wrench "3 hits after tight" and its good to go....
over the years I've only sheared a dozen or so lugs
I do take it easy on the AMG wheels because the donkey **** looking lugs can be "over tightened " but every other vehicle gets the impact!!!
over the years I've only sheared a dozen or so lugs

I do take it easy on the AMG wheels because the donkey **** looking lugs can be "over tightened " but every other vehicle gets the impact!!!
Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
I don’t know where Ford came up with 150 foot pounds nor do I actually believe anyone at Ford, or any Ford dealer actually being able to torque the lug nuts to 150 foot pounds.
I have a Craftsmen foot pound torque wrench and had it calibrated at work. At 150 foot pounds it came out as 149.2 foot pounds. NO FLUCKING way anyone could torque my lug nuts to 150 foot pounds (at least with not taking a 6 foot pole and standing on it while its on the torque wrench) and I can see why some people have warped rotors.
I don’t know where Ford came up with 150 foot pounds nor do I actually believe anyone at Ford, or any Ford dealer actually being able to torque the lug nuts to 150 foot pounds.
I have a Craftsmen foot pound torque wrench and had it calibrated at work. At 150 foot pounds it came out as 149.2 foot pounds. NO FLUCKING way anyone could torque my lug nuts to 150 foot pounds (at least with not taking a 6 foot pole and standing on it while its on the torque wrench) and I can see why some people have warped rotors.
If any of you have any doubt as to what the 12mm lugnuts should be torqued to, it's stamped on the damn lugnut 100 ft lbs.
Can't anymore positive than that. Ford wants 150 ft lbs on a 14mm lugnut, that is what we do and with a little anti-seize as well.
Ok, then maybe some can torque them to 150ft-lbs but not mine. As much as I could get putting my 200lbs into it was 130ft-lbs which was well more then actually needed. Lug nuts should never have to be torque to such a force you have to put your entire body weight into it or use a air gun to get them tighten correctly.
And yes it is true that if you put a bit of lubricant, such as anti-seize on a stud it will help give you a more accurate load applied to the threads. Oil or lubrication will not affect the torque placed on a bolt and it will not cause it to loosen up…
Lug nuts are not a normal wear and tear items that need scheduled replacement unless you’re changing tires every weekend racing. For normal use the lug nuts should last as long as the vehicle does.
Ford tends to over torque everything. Hell it took driving a screwdriver into the stock oil filter to get it off…
And yes it is true that if you put a bit of lubricant, such as anti-seize on a stud it will help give you a more accurate load applied to the threads. Oil or lubrication will not affect the torque placed on a bolt and it will not cause it to loosen up…
Lug nuts are not a normal wear and tear items that need scheduled replacement unless you’re changing tires every weekend racing. For normal use the lug nuts should last as long as the vehicle does.
Ford tends to over torque everything. Hell it took driving a screwdriver into the stock oil filter to get it off…
Originally posted by Tim Skelton
I can and have torqued my lug nuts to 150. 24" torque wrench needs only 75 lbs of force. I'm just about 300 lbs. It's just a matter of letting my wieght do the work.
But as stated above, I no longer use 150.
BTW, most "warped" rotors are misdiagnosed. In most cases, it's uneven pad deposits causing the brakes to grab/slip. The "Warped" Brake Disc and Other Myths of the Braking System
I can and have torqued my lug nuts to 150. 24" torque wrench needs only 75 lbs of force. I'm just about 300 lbs. It's just a matter of letting my wieght do the work.
But as stated above, I no longer use 150.
BTW, most "warped" rotors are misdiagnosed. In most cases, it's uneven pad deposits causing the brakes to grab/slip. The "Warped" Brake Disc and Other Myths of the Braking System
I do agree that oil on studs do help with torqueing of head, etc is good practice.
However since this is about lug nuts, a 5 page thread is actually quite simple - look in a ford shop manual, tsb's, ssm, recall info on 97-98 f150's etc for what ford themselves call for.
As for the 150 ft.lbs - i just push down on my tourque wrench and let it click - maybe its just my tourque wrench (25-250 lbs) but it doesn't seem to bad. If they do feel like they are streetching then they just might be, for example i just put on my traction bars (lakewoods) and i tourqued them to 55 ft.lbs, this was laying on my back but it felt a lot harder then when i put my wheels back on and torqued them to 150. The bars felt harder as the wrench just would not want to click - due to the brackets deforming some under the load (upper plate), where as a lug nut should not really move much if any from say 130 to 150 ft.lbs as it is solid.
That reminds me of a tempo that i tourqued them to 100 ft.lbs, all but 1 stud on 1 wheel torqued properly, but one just did not feel right (would not reach 100 ft.lbs) - pulled the wheel back of and that lug was stretching before i ever reached 100 ft.lbs.
BTW - the trucks that run on the train tracks that have special wheels are torqued between 180 - 200 ft.lbs. (dry)
as for studs being maitence - metals are not the same as they were 20 years ago - they are less pure due to recycled metals. Studs/nuts are cheap insurance - personally if they look/feel good i leave them but if there is any question then i replace them. Also you can tell if they stretch be retouquing every so often.
However since this is about lug nuts, a 5 page thread is actually quite simple - look in a ford shop manual, tsb's, ssm, recall info on 97-98 f150's etc for what ford themselves call for.
As for the 150 ft.lbs - i just push down on my tourque wrench and let it click - maybe its just my tourque wrench (25-250 lbs) but it doesn't seem to bad. If they do feel like they are streetching then they just might be, for example i just put on my traction bars (lakewoods) and i tourqued them to 55 ft.lbs, this was laying on my back but it felt a lot harder then when i put my wheels back on and torqued them to 150. The bars felt harder as the wrench just would not want to click - due to the brackets deforming some under the load (upper plate), where as a lug nut should not really move much if any from say 130 to 150 ft.lbs as it is solid.
That reminds me of a tempo that i tourqued them to 100 ft.lbs, all but 1 stud on 1 wheel torqued properly, but one just did not feel right (would not reach 100 ft.lbs) - pulled the wheel back of and that lug was stretching before i ever reached 100 ft.lbs.
BTW - the trucks that run on the train tracks that have special wheels are torqued between 180 - 200 ft.lbs. (dry)
as for studs being maitence - metals are not the same as they were 20 years ago - they are less pure due to recycled metals. Studs/nuts are cheap insurance - personally if they look/feel good i leave them but if there is any question then i replace them. Also you can tell if they stretch be retouquing every so often.
Last edited by sonic blue l; Mar 10, 2005 at 08:26 PM.
Originally Posted by t man1425
I completely understand what you were saying about the tightening technique and I want to thank you for your help. The part that i find confusing is how much to actually torque the lugs. There are many different opinions on what is the correct torque, so what I would like to know is if anyone actually does torque there own wheels to 150.
I've got a 150lb craftsman 24" torque wrench, and its what I always put my lug nuts to. Was never hard to do on my truck? *shrug* I use and impact wrench to take them off and put'm on, then touch it up with the torque wrench. My impact wrench is "rated" for 150ft/lbs, but its electric, so doesn't always get there.
Last edited by thepawn; Jan 11, 2007 at 04:18 PM.


