G'Day from Vienna!
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From: DETROIT, (formerly Eaton County, Michigan)
> 3. Called Ford SVT, and got the campaign number (I
> have it somewhere if you need it) and asked specific
> questions. The intercooler is leaking becuz one of
> the welds on the intercooler is weak and it breaks
> and starts to spray I/C fluid in your combustion
> chamber (not good). They said I'd have to call
> Customer service to see if Ford would cover it.
> (already did that)
> 4. Got the number for the Arbitration/Mediation
> department for Ford. This is a great service IF
> your car is under warranty. basically if you think
> Ford should fix it and they don't you go here and
> they come to a solution. But as i said, this only
> applies if your car is under warranty. so that was
> another dead end.
>
> 5. Contacted the NHTSA. (national Highway
> transportation safety administration) and filled out
> a complaint. My complaint was that the I/C fluid in
> the combbustion chamber could cause the engine to
> Vapor lock. If I'm driving down the Highway at
> 80mph and the engine locks, there goes, power
> steering, power brakes (still have manual) and in
> extreme cases could spin a bearing (major problem
> with engine) and lock up the engine. They were
> impressed, (I gave them all my research, data,
> Ford's campaign number) they especially liked that
> FORD knew about this problem and had a Campaign.
> They sent me the form, I typed up a few more pages
> of specific description and sent it in to them.
> They are investigating it, but Who knows when it
> will be solved. (that is still on gonig) It isn't
> a moot issue since I got it fixed, because this is a
> safety issue. THEY ARE STILL INVESTIGATING IT.
>
> 6. I did NOT try this BUT: The manufacturer of a
> vahicle is responsible for the emissions of that
> vehicle up to 75,000 miles. the Leaky I/C (on my
> truck) has plugged the Cats and fouled my O2
> sensors. Therefore This thing is guzzling gas like
> crazy and spewing everything into the atmosphere.
> (emissions) Here in Michigan, we don't have
> emission testing. I'm not sure who to con this only
> applies if your car is under warranty. so that was
> another dead end.
>
> 5. Contacted the NHTSA. (national Highway
> transportation safety administration) and filled out
> a complaint. My complaint was that the I/C fluid in
> the combbustion chamber could cause the engine to
> Vapor lock. If I'm driving down the Highway at
> 80mph and the engine locks, there goes, power
> steering, power brakes (still have manual) and in
> extreme cases could spin a bearing (major problem
> with engine) and lock up the engine. They were
> impressed, (I gave them all my research, data,
> Ford's campaign number) they especially liked that
> FORD knew about this problem and had a Campaign.
> They sent me the form, I typed up a few more pages
> of specific description and sent it in to them.
> They are investigating it, but Who knows when it
> will be solved. (that is still on gonig) It isn't
> a moot issue since I got it fixed, because this is a
> safety issue. THEY ARE STILL INVESTIGATING IT.
>
> 6. I did NOT try this BUT: The manufacturer of a
> vahicle is responsible for the emissions of that
> vehicle up to 75,000 miles. the Leaky I/C (on my
> truck) has plugged the Cats and fouled my O2
> sensors. Therefore This thing is guzzling gas like
> crazy and spewing everything into the atmosphere.
> (emissions) Here in Michigan, we don't have
> emission testing. I'm not sure who to contact but
> you can file that the defective part (leaky I/C) has
> caused severe emission problems (don't give them
> your VIN, because it could hurt you in the end) and
> that Ford is responsible for the emissions up to
> 75000 miles. My truck is a '99 and just turned
> 13,000 miles. So it was covered, but i was so fed
> up at this point, I didn't pursue it,. I should
> have though...
>
> 7. I called every dealership in the state that sold
> SVT and explained the situation. I finally found a
> delaership who had the part sitting on their shelf
> for a year and wanted to send it back to Ford. Ford
> would onl;y give them what they paid for it. SO
> they sold it to me at COST. $532.00 plus tax. I
> also had that delaership print off from the srevice
> manual step by step directions on replacing the I/C,
> complete with torque spec and all. It is an easy
> job and takes about 2.5 hours.
>
(conitnued below)
> have it somewhere if you need it) and asked specific
> questions. The intercooler is leaking becuz one of
> the welds on the intercooler is weak and it breaks
> and starts to spray I/C fluid in your combustion
> chamber (not good). They said I'd have to call
> Customer service to see if Ford would cover it.
> (already did that)
> 4. Got the number for the Arbitration/Mediation
> department for Ford. This is a great service IF
> your car is under warranty. basically if you think
> Ford should fix it and they don't you go here and
> they come to a solution. But as i said, this only
> applies if your car is under warranty. so that was
> another dead end.
>
> 5. Contacted the NHTSA. (national Highway
> transportation safety administration) and filled out
> a complaint. My complaint was that the I/C fluid in
> the combbustion chamber could cause the engine to
> Vapor lock. If I'm driving down the Highway at
> 80mph and the engine locks, there goes, power
> steering, power brakes (still have manual) and in
> extreme cases could spin a bearing (major problem
> with engine) and lock up the engine. They were
> impressed, (I gave them all my research, data,
> Ford's campaign number) they especially liked that
> FORD knew about this problem and had a Campaign.
> They sent me the form, I typed up a few more pages
> of specific description and sent it in to them.
> They are investigating it, but Who knows when it
> will be solved. (that is still on gonig) It isn't
> a moot issue since I got it fixed, because this is a
> safety issue. THEY ARE STILL INVESTIGATING IT.
>
> 6. I did NOT try this BUT: The manufacturer of a
> vahicle is responsible for the emissions of that
> vehicle up to 75,000 miles. the Leaky I/C (on my
> truck) has plugged the Cats and fouled my O2
> sensors. Therefore This thing is guzzling gas like
> crazy and spewing everything into the atmosphere.
> (emissions) Here in Michigan, we don't have
> emission testing. I'm not sure who to con this only
> applies if your car is under warranty. so that was
> another dead end.
>
> 5. Contacted the NHTSA. (national Highway
> transportation safety administration) and filled out
> a complaint. My complaint was that the I/C fluid in
> the combbustion chamber could cause the engine to
> Vapor lock. If I'm driving down the Highway at
> 80mph and the engine locks, there goes, power
> steering, power brakes (still have manual) and in
> extreme cases could spin a bearing (major problem
> with engine) and lock up the engine. They were
> impressed, (I gave them all my research, data,
> Ford's campaign number) they especially liked that
> FORD knew about this problem and had a Campaign.
> They sent me the form, I typed up a few more pages
> of specific description and sent it in to them.
> They are investigating it, but Who knows when it
> will be solved. (that is still on gonig) It isn't
> a moot issue since I got it fixed, because this is a
> safety issue. THEY ARE STILL INVESTIGATING IT.
>
> 6. I did NOT try this BUT: The manufacturer of a
> vahicle is responsible for the emissions of that
> vehicle up to 75,000 miles. the Leaky I/C (on my
> truck) has plugged the Cats and fouled my O2
> sensors. Therefore This thing is guzzling gas like
> crazy and spewing everything into the atmosphere.
> (emissions) Here in Michigan, we don't have
> emission testing. I'm not sure who to contact but
> you can file that the defective part (leaky I/C) has
> caused severe emission problems (don't give them
> your VIN, because it could hurt you in the end) and
> that Ford is responsible for the emissions up to
> 75000 miles. My truck is a '99 and just turned
> 13,000 miles. So it was covered, but i was so fed
> up at this point, I didn't pursue it,. I should
> have though...
>
> 7. I called every dealership in the state that sold
> SVT and explained the situation. I finally found a
> delaership who had the part sitting on their shelf
> for a year and wanted to send it back to Ford. Ford
> would onl;y give them what they paid for it. SO
> they sold it to me at COST. $532.00 plus tax. I
> also had that delaership print off from the srevice
> manual step by step directions on replacing the I/C,
> complete with torque spec and all. It is an easy
> job and takes about 2.5 hours.
>
(conitnued below)
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,097
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From: DETROIT, (formerly Eaton County, Michigan)
> 8. MAKE SURE YOU GET THE RIGHT PART.
> there are 3 parts out there that are the same thing.
> 1. the original one that will leak.
> 2. the new version ('01 and newer) that doesn't
> leak and is more efficient, BUT doesn't fit 99-00
> becuase the bolt holes WILL NOT line up.
>
>
> 3. The upgrade KIT. this is what you want!!! It
> upgrades the 99-00 version to the 01-present
> version. and is a complete kit! Again i don't have
> the part number with me but I can get it if you want
> it. the kit comes with upper and lower manifold
> and the inner coller itself. It looks intimdating
> to do, but it is really not that bad at all.
>
> Now, You are gambling if you buy a used one. A
> leaky one CANNOT be REPAIRED, trust me I went
> everywhere looking for someone to fix it. the metal
> is just too thin, and if the weld breaks, the metal
> weld could end up in the combustion chamber.
>
> Ford customer service will submit on your behalf a
> resuest to have Ford pick up part of the bill.
> Don't hold your breathe it will be turned down.
>
> Ford's campaign to fix this ended a year ago, and
> they are not going to extend it, (unless NHTSA comes
> through)
>
> THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND TO DO
>
> 1. ask the local SVT clubs (michgan =
> www.miloc.org) and ask for SVT friendly dealership
> that may sell the part at cost. Bite the bullet and
> get it. Ford only made a certain number of the
> "kits" and once they are gone, they are completely
> gone.
>
>
> Now if someone tries to sell you one from a '01 or
> newer, don't waste your mony, it won't fit.
>
> youll have to buy the Upper, lower manifold, the
> intercooler AND THE BLOWER! they are on Ebay like
> this, but sell for a lot!
> the bolts on the blower are also different, so a '01
> and newer blower will not fit a 99-00. Nor will a
> harley blower!
>
>
> Luckily hI have another car to drive, so the
> Lightning sat for a while I I tried all avenues.
> Ford screwed us, plain and simple, and it is for
> that reason I'm not buying anothed at all.
>
> Now, You are gambling if you buy a used one. A
> leaky one CANNOT be REPAIRED, trust me I went
> everywhere looking for someone to fix it. the metal
> is just too thin, and if the weld breaks, the metal
> weld could end up in the combustion chamber.
>
> Ford customer service will submit on your behalf a
> resuest to have Ford pick up part of the bill.
> Don't hold your breathe it will be turned down.
>
> Ford's campaign to fix this ended a year ago, and
> they are not going to extend it, (unless NHTSA comes
> through)
>
> THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND TO DO
>
> 1. ask the local SVT clubs (michgan =
> www.miloc.org) and ask for SVT friendly dealership
> that may sell the part at cost. Bite the bullet and
> get it. Ford only made a certain number of the
> "kits" and once they are gone, they are completely
> gone.
>
>
> Now if someone tries to sell you one from a '01 or
> newer, don't waste your mony, it won't fit.
>
> youll have to buy the Upper, lower manifold, the
> intercooler AND THE BLOWER! they are on Ebay like
> this, but sell for a lot!
> the bolts on the blower are also different, so a '01
> and newer blower will not fit a 99-00. Nor will a
> harley blower!
>
>
> Luckily hI have another car to drive, so the
> Lightning sat for a while I I tried all avenues.
> Ford screwed us, plain and simple, and it is for
> that reason I'm not buying another one.
> I keep the Leaky I/C on a shelf to remind me of the
> pain in the *** hassle I went through with Ford.
> Heck Dodge has the 7/70! (sorry didn't mean to rant)
>
> Try the Emission route and let me know how that
> turns out.
>
> GOOD LUCK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ford made 3 intercooler kits.
1. 99-00 Leaky stock intercooler
2. 99-00 Non-leaking stock intercooler with SPECIAL manifold 10 row
3. 01-present Stock intercooler 10 row
Now, IF you get a 01-present intercooler it will not work with your blower. you MUST have a -01-present blower.
The KIT that ford made to correct this problem is EXTREMELY LIMITED AND VERY HARD TO FIND. you are going to have a hell of a time locating one. If someone knows what they are worth, expect to spend a pretty penny!.
If you can find a dealership that has one the retail is over $700.
It si one big box that has upper and lower manifold and the intercooler.
the exact part numbers can be found by using the SEARCH buttong on top and type in intercooler.
I've posted about this a thousand times.
Read my post above on what I did and went through.
So your truck can have the upgraded intercooler with the '99-00 blower, it simply has the KIT on it.
(same thing my truck has right now)
> there are 3 parts out there that are the same thing.
> 1. the original one that will leak.
> 2. the new version ('01 and newer) that doesn't
> leak and is more efficient, BUT doesn't fit 99-00
> becuase the bolt holes WILL NOT line up.
>
>
> 3. The upgrade KIT. this is what you want!!! It
> upgrades the 99-00 version to the 01-present
> version. and is a complete kit! Again i don't have
> the part number with me but I can get it if you want
> it. the kit comes with upper and lower manifold
> and the inner coller itself. It looks intimdating
> to do, but it is really not that bad at all.
>
> Now, You are gambling if you buy a used one. A
> leaky one CANNOT be REPAIRED, trust me I went
> everywhere looking for someone to fix it. the metal
> is just too thin, and if the weld breaks, the metal
> weld could end up in the combustion chamber.
>
> Ford customer service will submit on your behalf a
> resuest to have Ford pick up part of the bill.
> Don't hold your breathe it will be turned down.
>
> Ford's campaign to fix this ended a year ago, and
> they are not going to extend it, (unless NHTSA comes
> through)
>
> THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND TO DO
>
> 1. ask the local SVT clubs (michgan =
> www.miloc.org) and ask for SVT friendly dealership
> that may sell the part at cost. Bite the bullet and
> get it. Ford only made a certain number of the
> "kits" and once they are gone, they are completely
> gone.
>
>
> Now if someone tries to sell you one from a '01 or
> newer, don't waste your mony, it won't fit.
>
> youll have to buy the Upper, lower manifold, the
> intercooler AND THE BLOWER! they are on Ebay like
> this, but sell for a lot!
> the bolts on the blower are also different, so a '01
> and newer blower will not fit a 99-00. Nor will a
> harley blower!
>
>
> Luckily hI have another car to drive, so the
> Lightning sat for a while I I tried all avenues.
> Ford screwed us, plain and simple, and it is for
> that reason I'm not buying anothed at all.
>
> Now, You are gambling if you buy a used one. A
> leaky one CANNOT be REPAIRED, trust me I went
> everywhere looking for someone to fix it. the metal
> is just too thin, and if the weld breaks, the metal
> weld could end up in the combustion chamber.
>
> Ford customer service will submit on your behalf a
> resuest to have Ford pick up part of the bill.
> Don't hold your breathe it will be turned down.
>
> Ford's campaign to fix this ended a year ago, and
> they are not going to extend it, (unless NHTSA comes
> through)
>
> THIS IS WHAT I RECOMMEND TO DO
>
> 1. ask the local SVT clubs (michgan =
> www.miloc.org) and ask for SVT friendly dealership
> that may sell the part at cost. Bite the bullet and
> get it. Ford only made a certain number of the
> "kits" and once they are gone, they are completely
> gone.
>
>
> Now if someone tries to sell you one from a '01 or
> newer, don't waste your mony, it won't fit.
>
> youll have to buy the Upper, lower manifold, the
> intercooler AND THE BLOWER! they are on Ebay like
> this, but sell for a lot!
> the bolts on the blower are also different, so a '01
> and newer blower will not fit a 99-00. Nor will a
> harley blower!
>
>
> Luckily hI have another car to drive, so the
> Lightning sat for a while I I tried all avenues.
> Ford screwed us, plain and simple, and it is for
> that reason I'm not buying another one.
> I keep the Leaky I/C on a shelf to remind me of the
> pain in the *** hassle I went through with Ford.
> Heck Dodge has the 7/70! (sorry didn't mean to rant)
>
> Try the Emission route and let me know how that
> turns out.
>
> GOOD LUCK.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ford made 3 intercooler kits.
1. 99-00 Leaky stock intercooler
2. 99-00 Non-leaking stock intercooler with SPECIAL manifold 10 row
3. 01-present Stock intercooler 10 row
Now, IF you get a 01-present intercooler it will not work with your blower. you MUST have a -01-present blower.
The KIT that ford made to correct this problem is EXTREMELY LIMITED AND VERY HARD TO FIND. you are going to have a hell of a time locating one. If someone knows what they are worth, expect to spend a pretty penny!.
If you can find a dealership that has one the retail is over $700.
It si one big box that has upper and lower manifold and the intercooler.
the exact part numbers can be found by using the SEARCH buttong on top and type in intercooler.
I've posted about this a thousand times.
Read my post above on what I did and went through.
So your truck can have the upgraded intercooler with the '99-00 blower, it simply has the KIT on it.
(same thing my truck has right now)
Senior Member
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 507
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From: " Somewhere Between Lost & Found "
Welcome ! Yes the intercooler is a good upgrade, (did it to my 00L) not sure if they changed the intake also. You'll meet alot of people here and learn alot from some. You like the same toys that I do, I also have a new harley softail. goodluck with your L. austria is fun for GI's just passing through. 
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Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,079
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From: Los Angeles and San Luis Obispo
Welcome mate! How did u get from australia to austria? lol I think its kinda funny. Well there is lots of information on here that should help you out with your truck. Thats sooo cool having one of 2 in the whole country!
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Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 348
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From: Hannover, Germany
What a fast girl ! 
Hi Miss Dagger,
You are living in austria. Dann sprichst Du auch deutsch ? (so you speaking german too ?)
Know i know 5 european Lightning owner !
3 from germany,
1 from Swiss,
1 from austria
many greetings from germany and always fun with your Lightning !
André
Hi Miss Dagger,
You are living in austria. Dann sprichst Du auch deutsch ? (so you speaking german too ?)
Know i know 5 european Lightning owner !
3 from germany,
1 from Swiss,
1 from austria
many greetings from germany and always fun with your Lightning !
André
Last edited by Andre04; Feb 5, 2005 at 05:25 PM.
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Joined: Jan 2005
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From: Vienna
THANK YOU!!
Firstly,
I just wanted say thanks to all of you that wrote and welcomed me to the Forum. Its great to be on board!
I-menace - Thanks for forwarding me all the notes on the Intercooler issues. I have printed it off and will lookup the Part numbers of the upgrade KIT - hopefully my dealer here will be able to get their hands on one. Will make sure they don't try to order a '01 one. THANK YOU!!!
To the European members... Have there been any 'Meets' in the past? I would highly recommend a 'Truck meet' for the summer :-)
Cheers and Thanks,
Achara
I just wanted say thanks to all of you that wrote and welcomed me to the Forum. Its great to be on board!
I-menace - Thanks for forwarding me all the notes on the Intercooler issues. I have printed it off and will lookup the Part numbers of the upgrade KIT - hopefully my dealer here will be able to get their hands on one. Will make sure they don't try to order a '01 one. THANK YOU!!!
To the European members... Have there been any 'Meets' in the past? I would highly recommend a 'Truck meet' for the summer :-)
Cheers and Thanks,
Achara
