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See my web page for all the mods I've got.
My 02 was on thier dyno for 7hrs. It was'nt cheap.. but I can run repeatable 12.4s-12.5s on sunoco 94 octane.
Before the convertor and ported eaton I was running 12.7s-12.8s on the very same tune. And all on the same 4# lower (stock upper)
Rich
My 02 was on thier dyno for 7hrs. It was'nt cheap.. but I can run repeatable 12.4s-12.5s on sunoco 94 octane.
Before the convertor and ported eaton I was running 12.7s-12.8s on the very same tune. And all on the same 4# lower (stock upper)
Rich
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I'm not being negative but those numbers are nothing fantastic. I mean if you were running 12.4 on JUST a 4lb i'd say otherwise. . My 2000 runs 12.7's on just a 4lb lower.
The convertor is what's getting you those extra tenths no doubt, but they are still good numbers anyway.
I've heard Lots of Great things about REM. I use JDM for my tuning myself, but to each their own.
DYNO tuning is the key. No it is not cheap. And NO, you may have to make a weekend trip out of it. But it's worth it.
The convertor is what's getting you those extra tenths no doubt, but they are still good numbers anyway.
I've heard Lots of Great things about REM. I use JDM for my tuning myself, but to each their own.
DYNO tuning is the key. No it is not cheap. And NO, you may have to make a weekend trip out of it. But it's worth it.
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I'm not being negative but those numbers are nothing fantastic. I mean if you were running 12.4 on JUST a 4lb i'd say otherwise. . My 2000 runs 12.7's on just a 4lb lower.
Personally I think the stall really isn't giving me too awfull much. Had it in for the previous fall and only ran 12.7s. It was the Apten port that really turned up the heat on my truck!
BTW: I clearly pull on 5# and 6# trucks. Most of them have more mods too. Headers and whatnot.
The real clue to how much power a motor is making is the trap speed. Currently I'm hitting in the 110-112 range. Again at 900ft elevation.
Rich
Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
Well.. were your times at 900ft and Milan dragway in MI? Or were those times at a lower elevation and a good track?
Personally I think the stall really isn't giving me too awfull much. Had it in for the previous fall and only ran 12.7s. It was the Apten port that really turned up the heat on my truck!
BTW: I clearly pull on 5# and 6# trucks. Most of them have more mods too. Headers and whatnot.
The real clue to how much power a motor is making is the trap speed. Currently I'm hitting in the 110-112 range. Again at 900ft elevation.
Rich
Well.. were your times at 900ft and Milan dragway in MI? Or were those times at a lower elevation and a good track?
Personally I think the stall really isn't giving me too awfull much. Had it in for the previous fall and only ran 12.7s. It was the Apten port that really turned up the heat on my truck!
BTW: I clearly pull on 5# and 6# trucks. Most of them have more mods too. Headers and whatnot.
The real clue to how much power a motor is making is the trap speed. Currently I'm hitting in the 110-112 range. Again at 900ft elevation.
Rich
Paul Ricci at REM is a talented tuner. Paul's assistant installed a 90 MM MAM, a new intake, and a 4lb pulley in my 2000 Lightning. Paul then dyno tuned the vehicle. The result on his Mustang Dyno was 364.4 HP at 4550 RPM; 491.5 lbs of torque at 3150 RPM. It was a warm day when all this was done. The truck is much, much faster. It has run flawlessly since the work was done on November 12, 2004. The changes have required me to change my launch technique in order to maximize traction. Also, if you have the changes done, before you use the passing kickdown with other cars in front of you, use it a couple of times with no traffic. There is a very big change.
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Well.. were your times at 900ft and Milan dragway in MI? Or were those times at a lower elevation and a good track?
I can tell you that your convertor has more to do with your times then anything, but i'm sure your aware of that.
Before the convertor and ported eaton I was running 12.7s-12.8s on the very same tune. And all on the same 4# lower (stock upper)
Wydopnthrtl swears by REM. He ran a 12.4 with a 4# lower.
That was impressive.
That was impressive.
All i'm saying is a newbie reading that might think that going with the REM tune and a 4lb lower, his is going to run 12.4's. All though that is a good possibility, without real low 60's it's not all that practicle. The convertor and ported blower put you from 12.7's to 12.4's. That's the only point i'm making. I'm not trying to rag on you by no means. Your trap speeds are what is impressive to me. 110-112 on just 4lbs additional boost. Your numbers are solid
It's always been my focus in pointing to my web page for anybody who's interested in my ETs (mods listed there).
Just for the record: I've run many a 12.7-12.8 @ 106-107mph with 26" et streets, 58" bars, 4# lower, e-fan, conical air filter, simple things taken off like the spare and hitch, and that awsome REM dyno tune. (13.2s-12.8s on F1s)
Rich
Last edited by wydopnthrtl; Feb 2, 2005 at 12:52 PM.
Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
Oh... I get ya. I agree on the newbie assumptions. A REM dyno tune and a 4# lower *only* most likely would yield low 13s in the summer and maybe a high 12 in the cold.
Rich
Oh... I get ya. I agree on the newbie assumptions. A REM dyno tune and a 4# lower *only* most likely would yield low 13s in the summer and maybe a high 12 in the cold.
Rich
and that is what it sounded like to me. I was thinking to myself, WTF..... thats all I need!?!? Saweet! Now it's a little more to the point with the input of others.
Originally posted by DX NumNutz
Well I am a newb
and that is what it sounded like to me. I was thinking to myself, WTF..... thats all I need!?!? Saweet! Now it's a little more to the point with the input of others.
Well I am a newb
and that is what it sounded like to me. I was thinking to myself, WTF..... thats all I need!?!? Saweet! Now it's a little more to the point with the input of others.
You get a guy who is racing with an effective Density Altitude (which is what really matters when comparing times, not the literal altitude above sea level you race at) of -1000' vs. a guy at +2000' and you could see a difference of .5 in ET and 3-4mph... easily. Maybe more than that.
Here are my mods: 4lb lower, SCT tune, REM CAI, street tires (only 2.04 60') and a 12.81 @ 109.00 mph at 600+' DA (a decent day in N. Texas). I've made 5 passes on the truck. Slicks alone would give me a 12.6 easily.
Last edited by WA 2 FST; Feb 2, 2005 at 05:21 PM.



i wanna me in the 500/600 club