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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 03:33 AM
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Mustang GT...

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Have ANY of you, under ANY circumstance (street or track, stop or roll), at ANY mod level (friend or foe), EVER been beaten by a modular Mustang GT?

The reason I ask...

I got into a 35-40 roll-on contest with BAD-AZZ intensions with an INSANELY modded (flames shooting out of the pipes on each shift, barely idling, steamroller tires...) new-ish GT Sunday. The Old Lady was present and advised to duck and run after the first rev-limiter bashing rev-throw by the prospective opponent.

Rightie-oh. Noddd-gunnuh-habbennn...

I must admit that I was a bit nervous after trailing this flame-throwing, 150-dB barking monster for a couple of miles and more than a few one-lane stoplights. This freaking thing was NUTS, and the dude obviously wanted plenty of what I had to offer, and then some.

On a totally unrelated note, he looked like Nomar Garciaparra's stunt double, and yes, It WAS a yellow one, for what it's worth...

Well, we didn't get a side-by-side light after several miles of stalking. He did stab it HARD a couple of times rolling out of a couple intersections in traffic, and it jumped pretty bad-azz. My hopes waned a wee bit, lads.

Anyhow, as we rolled around a long left-hand bender leading to a possible side-by-side stoplight situation, he peeled right onto a more-or-less straight, gentle uphill, half-mile freeway on-ramp. I had a feeling that IT WAS ON!

He backed off quite a bit, down to 30 MPH or so, got the proper gear then DROPPED THE HAMMER!

Naturally, I was at a MAJOR disadvantage. First, we generally don't do terribly well from a roll. I got SUH-MOKED a couple years back by a crispy F-Body at a good 80+ MPH highway roll with the Old Lady riding shotgun (back in the 13.6/100-ish days), and she was VERY unimpressed. Something like "I/we spent $XXX.XX on STUPID Lightning parts and that XXX smoked your XXX like THAT?", or something. Actually, it was two lenghts or so up to 120 MPH, but a loss is a loss...

Anyway, back to the current topic. It was not only a highway roll, but he also had a manual and the proper gear. Plus, let's not forget, the thing was hellaciously crispy.

Anyway, the Old Lady was locked in on "the position", as we call it (seatbelt fully retracted, azz rammed into the seat, bejeezuz handle tightly gripped), and we were ready for war.

In the essence of fair reporting, I must come clean on the performance and mods. I ran a 12.9/107 at FULL WEIGHT (hitch, spare, hashed F1's, and everything else you can imagine) last fall with little more than a home-brewed ram-air intake, FTVB, SOFT sooty chip, 5-lb pulley, and nothing else of note. Since than, I've put on drop shackles and home-ported the MOTHER-FUGGH out of the intake tract (TONS of aluminum shaved away), and track testing this season under comparable conditions indicates a 0.2-0.3/1.5-2.5 increase from the porting. So suffice to say I'm capable of 12.7/109 with nothing more showing than a weak chip, 5-lb pulley, and modded airbox.

After the HUGE departure, courtesy of Mr. Basil Hayden, we'll get back on track...

As you recall, our boy downshifts and HAMMERS it, spits some flame, and rockets up the ramp. Basically, I'm anticipating such a move, hanging 50-or-so feet off his bumper, and waiting for it to drop.

Dude drops the hammer HARD from 30 MPH or so, and I wait for a clear sign that a legit race is on. A big puff of black smoke out of both pipes, evil squatting of the rear end, and ROCKETING forward of the yellow Mustang is my cue to mash that fuggher!

Within a second or so, this dude is WAAY ahead of me, with a HUUUUGE jump, exhaust roaring, and he's rowing the gers for all he's worth (as I can see his shift light through the rear glass).

I do the only thing any of us can do, of course, which is to mash it to the floor and pray to Our Lady Of Eternal Boost, who obligingly delivers around 13 PSI or so...

Within the first 2 or 3 seconds, when I was just idling along like some Camry or Caravan Pilot, he jumped to a good 200 foot/20 MPH advantage. At that point, I decided that it was pretty much time to pound the pedal to the floor. That's when things took a swift quantum shift.

Honestly, his forward advantage was arrested within 2-3 seconds, I began reeling him in INSANELY fast, and easily within 6-8 seconds the Old Lady was yelping "YOU DON'T HAVE TO HIT HIM!" as I was closing on his canary-yellow trunk at a frightening pace. The takeaway was that I turned a 20+ MPH jump into a 20+ MPH run within an eighth-mile uphill run with a BAD AZZ GT. In fact, after the wife howled, I lifted fully and I coasted up on the dude (flames spitting on the shift) for a good 330 feet or so with the throttle closed, just coasting uphill, before he began properly pulling away.

In other words, TOTAL DOMINATION. If I had another 10 feet or so on the left, I could have passed this joker and put a GOOD 20 lengths on him before we hit the superslab.

Without dropping the tired old "street racing is bad..." line (I'm 37 years old and know better, to say the least), has ANYONE EVER been beaten by a modular Mustang GT? I doubt it, based on this (and a few other) encounters...

REPRESENT!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 05:53 AM
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DAMN, if I was able to keep it straight . this "fast mustang" jumps out 200ft or 10 car lengths on you and you real him in with no problem
Either he was off the gas or it's a total POS that was just loud & spits flames and your easily impressed.
this poorly written novel reaks of total BS, but thats just my opinion
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 08:20 AM
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There's something called a Lightning roll which means not many cars can beat a lightning from a roll anywhere from 20-60mph where most of the torque is.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 08:41 AM
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Originally posted by D Davis
DAMN, if I was able to keep it straight . this "fast mustang" jumps out 200ft or 10 car lengths on you and you real him in with no problem
Either he was off the gas or it's a total POS that was just loud & spits flames and your easily impressed.
this poorly written novel reaks of total BS, but thats just my opinion
OWNED!

I think he got out of it too!
 

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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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That was a very entertaining post! Thanks for the laughs!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 09:40 AM
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uh oh..
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Naaaah...

Bob:

Not gonna bite. Plus, remember that Doctor Dragon claims to have a PhD in an unspecified field from an unspecified university. He's NOT to be messed with, that's for sure!

It happened exactly as described, with some SLIGHT embellishment (spicy adjectives) for entertainment purposes, of course. Wouldn't have wasted an hour or so of typing on the haters and stalkers, except I needed to pass some time while burning up a wad of CD's for a well-earned graduation gift for someone.

Naturally, I really don't care if anybody buys in on the veracity of my little tale. All that matters is that I had a freaking riot stomping this fool on a beautiful Sunday, maybe some of you will be entertained by my report, and I'm still unbeaten on the streets of the 'Natti.

Peace out, brothas.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Re: Naaaah...

Originally posted by Silver-Y2K-SVT


Peace out, brothas.
If you are 37 why do you talk like that? I am 27 and I dont talk like that J/K

Nice kill, There are plenty of 14 second GT's around here that are all show. Big tach, exhaust with no cats etc. My guess is you ran into one of them. A mid 12 second L up against a 14 second stang. But again just my guess
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 12:20 PM
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Yup...

'D8:

No doubt. To smoke him like that, he couldn't be capable of running any harder than mid/high 13's, I'm guessing. I nailed him right in the fat part of the torque curve, but I could have easily done the same deed at 80 or 90 MPH as well.

You hit my point right on the button. Have ANY of you ever been spanked on the street by a modular GT? I've never had one even come close. I've seen a couple run some DECENT times at the track (slicks, spare out, race gas...), but I've certainly never tangled with a modular GT capable of 12's in street trim, on street tires, I can assure you of that. I'm sure there are a pile of fast ones out there, but they certainly aren't trolling my neighborhood. There have to be at least a dozen mid-14-second GT's with Flowmasters on my little cowpath of a road, and I'll be more than happy to stomp a mudhole in them and walk it dry. Any time, any place.

Holla, ya heard!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 12:44 PM
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I bet this GT would whip your ***:



And this one may not be a modular GT but I have a feeling it would take a bite out of any Lightning (Click for big picture)



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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 01:08 PM
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I have gotten my *** kicked nasty by supercharged mustang GT's and ones with LOTS of juice (150 shots plus)

Anytime you go from a roll, you're at a disadvantage. The 20-60mph "lightning strike" is a lie, it just feels stronger there because of the downshift, the truck will pull much harder from a dead stop, even pedaling it to keep em from smoking.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 01:29 PM
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Re: Naaaah...

"In the essence of fair reporting, I must come clean on the performance and mods. I ran a 12.9/107 at FULL WEIGHT (hitch, spare, hashed F1's, and everything else you can imagine) last fall with little more than a home-brewed ram-air intake, FTVB, SOFT sooty chip, 5-lb pulley, and nothing else of note. Since than, I've put on drop shackles and home-ported the MOTHER-FUGGH out of the intake tract (TONS of aluminum shaved away), and track testing this season under comparable conditions indicates a 0.2-0.3/1.5-2.5 increase from the porting. So suffice to say I'm capable of 12.7/109 with nothing more showing than a weak chip, 5-lb pulley, and modded airbox."

First of all, you should be running better times in Ohio than these, especially in the FALL. And you should be over 13#'s of boost. I am seeing 14.5-15 with a 4# and ported blower. I ran 12's all day at full weight with 3/4 tank of gas BEFORE the port job, albeit in the 107 mph range. So I can't help your truck is slow or you don't know how to drive it. My track prep sucks too and is at 662 ft above sea level.


Originally posted by Silver-Y2K-SVT
Bob:

Not gonna bite. Plus, remember that Doctor Dragon claims to have a PhD in an unspecified field from an unspecified university. He's NOT to be messed with, that's for sure!

Blow it out your pie-hole

It happened exactly as described, with some SLIGHT embellishment (spicy adjectives) for entertainment purposes, of course.

Slight embellishment? He let off the gas after he had you beat lol


Naturally, I really don't care if anybody buys in on the veracity of my little tale. All that matters is that I had a freaking riot stomping this fool on a beautiful Sunday, maybe some of you will be entertained by my report, and I'm still unbeaten on the streets of the 'Natti.

Uh oh....don't come to Indy then....you might have your first loss on your record lol
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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Hmmm? A stock late model Mustang GT is capable of a 14 sec 1/4 mile. It can easily be modded to get in the low 13's and if it' was modded as heavily as you alluded to, it would have been in the mid 12's. It sounds like maybe it wan't as bad azz of Mustang as you thought. Go check out some of the Mustang boards and see what kind of power they are getting out of them and what their 1/4 mile times are. Many are in the 12's, and even quite a few get into the 11's rather easily. I watched on Spike TV the other day and they took a stock Cobra with 245 hp on the dyno and bolted a Vortech supercharger to it and ran a conservative 10 psi boost. They got 425 hp on the dyno from that mod. Be weary of modded Mustangs, some of them are wickedly quick and will blow away a 12.7 to 12.9 Lightning.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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Silver-Y2K-SVT: I AM STILL LAUGHING MY *** OF at what you said... " hellaciously crispy ". FUNNY!!!

Seriously though, cool story, great illustration!





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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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"rowing the gears"
 
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