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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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Another reason why I do not want to tune myself.

http://www.nloc.info/forum/showthrea...threadid=69824


At least he was a man about it. I give him a lot of credit for telling the truth.
He was a man about what? Loading a new custom tune from his inept tuner on his predator and the truck blowing up?

Absolutely NOTHING on that thread indicates that it blew up from his own adjustments or fault.
 
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:30 PM
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Originally posted by Brian@SCT
you really can't tune your car with a couple buttons on a handheld programmer. At best, you are making raw adjustments to base tables. Even though you may be able to use handheld tuners to adjust things on the dyno, you are never going to get the precision that a dyno tuning dealer can. That is, unless you get the whole tuning package yourself. The only thing the handhelds allow is slight adjustment, but not what I would consider to be real tuning.

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I was referring to the slight adjustments (tweaking) capabilities. This thread took the wrong path after someone mentioned they wouldn't tune it themselves. I wouldn't either!
 
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Old May 6, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by Brian@SCT
you really can't tune your car with a couple buttons on a handheld programmer. At best, you are making raw adjustments to base tables. Even though you may be able to use handheld tuners to adjust things on the dyno, you are never going to get the precision that a dyno tuning dealer can. That is, unless you get the whole tuning package yourself. The only thing the handhelds allow is slight adjustment, but not what I would consider to be real tuning.

Brian
The adjustments on most of these are very very little. If you want real control buy the pro racer package anyway, and if you want to share with your friends spend the 5K on the dealer setup.

Hey Brian Daniel and I want that manifold he called you about when you get a chance! Thanks!
 

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Old May 7, 2004 | 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by MISTERgadget
He was a man about what? Loading a new custom tune from his inept tuner on his predator and the truck blowing up?

Absolutely NOTHING on that thread indicates that it blew up from his own adjustments or fault.
First off.. RELAX.

I misread the thread. I thought HE made an adjustment.

And I was talking about being a man about the whole situation and not just blaming everybody in the world. Basically taking resposibility.
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by VINNIE
First off.. RELAX.

I misread the thread. I thought HE made an adjustment.

And I was talking about being a man about the whole situation and not just blaming everybody in the world. Basically taking resposibility.
Makes two of us who misread this thread.
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 06:37 AM
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Re: Re: What???

Originally posted by Fast Gator
Then, why is your truck so slow?
Gotta keep it as my tow vehicle.
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by VINNIE
First off.. RELAX.

I misread the thread. I thought HE made an adjustment.

And I was talking about being a man about the whole situation and not just blaming everybody in the world. Basically taking resposibility.
Yes he is responsible because he chose to use a bad tuner. So it is his fault. So good for him.

Don't worry i'm relaxed
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Brian, give me a call when you get a chance. 631-642-DYNO.
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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Originally posted by Casey02L
More info can be found here:

http://forums.modulardepot.com/showt...threadid=25715

And if you really wanted to adjust things get this package:

http://www.modulardepot.com/product_...products_id=47

The pro racer package is what I am going with.
I too ordered the Pro Racer package. With the standard handheld Predator or SCT unit you need a VERY close custom tune to start with, as the adjustments you'll be able to make to it are very small. The Pro Racer package gives you access to virtually everything in the computer without the limits of the standard units.

I was just e-mailed my base program for the unit which means hopefully that my unit is on the way. If I blow the truck up there will be nobody to blame but myself, which is fine with me. Just glad to get off the 2-3 week waiting list to get a custom tune changed.

I will let you guys know my thoughts after I get tuning with this. I've done several blown motors with aftermarket EFI so I'm hoping this will be similar. Being able to make changes from a laptop is a good thing, but again this is not for everybody. Without some amount of EFI tuning experience I'd suggest sticking with a good tuner.

Jody
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by MISTERgadget
He was a man about what? Loading a new custom tune from his inept tuner on his predator and the truck blowing up?

Absolutely NOTHING on that thread indicates that it blew up from his own adjustments or fault.
Oh but he did make some adjustments. He swapped out the stock blower for a KB and adjusted it to 18 pounds of boost on a stock block. I'm sure the stock MAF and injectors maxed out and then some. It was an accident waiting to happen no matter who tuned it.
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by LTNBOLT
Oh but he did make some adjustments. He swapped out the stock blower for a KB and adjusted it to 18 pounds of boost on a stock block. I'm sure the stock MAF and injectors maxed out and then some. It was an accident waiting to happen no matter who tuned it.
Wow!

I had only read it when he jsut started the thread. Now I see how he adjusted it with his own special "boom" package. What an idiot.

I can summarize what he was doing with a picture:

 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 05:25 PM
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Well at least he was honest about his mods and what happened.

I know with the mods that I have a rod could go at anytime. It's the nature of the beast.
 
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Old May 7, 2004 | 09:58 PM
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Originally posted by LTNBOLT
Oh but he did make some adjustments. He swapped out the stock blower for a KB and adjusted it to 18 pounds of boost on a stock block. I'm sure the stock MAF and injectors maxed out and then some. It was an accident waiting to happen no matter who tuned it.

I agree that he was asking for it with the mods he had. Even with a good tune, 18lbs of boost is putting pressures on the rods beyond what Ford had them designed for.

I don't think he is an idiot though. I just think he did not get as lucky as some. I pushed my ported Eaton and stock block to 18lbs of boost several times and she never let go...guess I got lucky....


Rocks
 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 01:19 AM
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Originally posted by 03LightninRocks
I agree that he was asking for it with the mods he had. Even with a good tune, 18lbs of boost is putting pressures on the rods beyond what Ford had them designed for.

I don't think he is an idiot though. I just think he did not get as lucky as some. I pushed my ported Eaton and stock block to 18lbs of boost several times and she never let go...guess I got lucky....


Rocks
Cmon Rocks, you know that 18 lbs of boost from a kenne bell is a completely different animal than 18lbs of boost from an eaton.
 
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Old May 8, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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Originally posted by MISTERgadget
Cmon Rocks, you know that 18 lbs of boost from a kenne bell is a completely different animal than 18lbs of boost from an eaton.
You know the tuners say that 18 psi from a KB is harder on an engine than 18 psi from an Eaton; heats the air a lot more.

Jody
 
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