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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 01:33 PM
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Think of a bi-metal strip. One side is hot and the other is cold. As the temp differences grow so does the warpage. Problem is that on one side (hot side) you have a very fast moving piston, valve, journal/bearing, ect... The dimensional stability of those bores & races is key to a long lifecycle. the more warp you add the shorter the life. (ever hear of the vega?)

Now please dont blow this out of proportition.. I'm not talking about 25k miles. But I'd personally not want to own a 80k+ mile gen 2 that's had a cold stat and/or a e-pump.

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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
Think of a bi-metal strip. One side is hot and the other is cold. As the temp differences grow so does the warpage. Problem is that on one side (hot side) you have a very fast moving piston, valve, journal/bearing, ect... The dimensional stability of those bores & races is key to a long lifecycle. the more warp you add the shorter the life. (ever hear of the vega?)

Now please dont blow this out of proportition.. I'm not talking about 25k miles. But I'd personally not want to own a 80k+ mile gen 2 that's had a cold stat and/or a e-pump.

Rich
The higher engine temps cause oil to break down faster and to a greater extent, so I would argue that you're trading one for the other. Plus, a cooler motor "cooks" the gaskets less, giving them longevity (in my opinion). Plus, cooler thermostats help tranny temps stay cooler, as the fluid goes through the radiator to cool initially, then through the front-mount cooler. Add this to a little more power, and anti-detonation and I think there are more benefits than pitfalls to a cooler stat when you add them all up.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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The higher engine temps cause oil to break down faster and to a greater extent
A 10 degree F diff wont on an ALREADY cold motor. stock 180 vs the designed for 192

Plus, a cooler motor "cooks" the gaskets less, giving them longevity (in my opinion).
I value your opinion.. However, we speced "world class" sealing on all the mod motors. There is no "cooking" of those seals. They are of a much superior quality than in times past. Alsong with the physical sealing surfaces & geometric mating shapes.

Plus, cooler thermostats help tranny temps stay cooler, as the fluid goes through the radiator to cool initially, then through the front-mount cooler.
100% true


Add this to a little more power
There are much more effective ways to lower the intake charge temp. (which is what your trying to do)

I think there are more benefits than pitfalls to a cooler stat when you add them all up
I respectfully disagree.

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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 03:44 PM
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Another reason to run a colder thermostat is to reduce the potential for detonation. Cooler heads have cooler/less hot spots, less chance to ignite the A/F before the spark's flame front. Yes, I'm currently running a 170, but am planning to switch to a 160 ASAP.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by wydopnthrtl
A 10 degree F diff wont on an ALREADY cold motor. stock 180 vs the designed for 192



I value your opinion.. However, we speced "world class" sealing on all the mod motors. There is no "cooking" of those seals. They are of a much superior quality than in times past. Alsong with the physical sealing surfaces & geometric mating shapes.



100% true




There are much more effective ways to lower the intake charge temp. (which is what your trying to do)



I respectfully disagree.

Rich
We can agree to disagree.
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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Best part of all this is that it's OUR truck to do with whatever we want to. If you paid for it, it's yours buddy.

Mines getting quicker and quicker all the time. Finally got a compliment about the plates too. "ITSQUIK". A fellow MiLoc member said you know it lives up to the plate!. (after he got whooped )

Rich
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Originally posted by wydopnthrtl


I value your opinion.. However, we speced "world class" sealing on all the mod motors. There is no "cooking" of those seals. They are of a much superior quality than in times past. Alsong with the physical sealing surfaces & geometric mating shapes.



100% true





Rich
World class sealing like the passenger side head gasket....
 
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Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by wydopnthrtl

There are much more effective ways to lower the intake charge temp. (which is what your trying to do)




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