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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Re: Re: hmm

Originally posted by ZorPrime
You should re-read his post. He has a filter and a cat-back exhaust. That would defiantely not qualify as stock.

Got to agree......... Not stock, but you are running great..

Nasty does have the fastest time I know with the least amout of work done..
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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sorry

You should re-read his post. He has a filter and a cat-back exhaust. That would defiantely not qualify as stock.
You are correct, however I should have reworded what I was trying to say. Panel Filters and catbacks have not been proven enough to make that much hp difference without increased boost levels so I don't consider them to be qualified as legit power adders........especially to pick up almost one full second quicker than your average stock 99 1/4 E.T.

 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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Re: Whats up with my Truck? Factory Freak?

Originally posted by TurboRegal84
I bought my 99 Lightning a month or so ago, and I took it to the track a few weeks ago.

I have done nothing to it at all, and I took it down to Atco to make a few passes.

The Truck ran a 13.1 @ 104 with a 1.9 60' on F1's.

I had a few local guys check it out, and the only thing visibly done to the truck is a Cold Air Intake with a K&N, and Borla Exhaust.


Any ideas what could be done to it? cam? ported blower?

Any Estimate on how much HP I am making?

Thank You,
I was curious if you were using K&N's complete cold air intake kit.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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Re: hmm

Originally posted by tallimeca


My best stock run in my 2000 was like 14.2@99. Even with a chip and filter I maxed out at like 13.7's. 60's were avereage, around the 2.0x mark.

I would personally be concerned with the tune. Might want to have it dynod and get some a/f numbers on that bad boy.
No offence, but that is super slow for a stock truck. I ran a little faster with my 2000 at 5500 feet altitude.

Only took a chip filter and 2Ib pulley to run 12.8 down in Texas.

I guess these trucks must vary a lot.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 07:55 PM
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Re: Re: hmm

Originally posted by Hilander
No offence, but that is super slow for a stock truck. I ran a little faster with my 2000 at 5500 feet altitude.

Only took a chip filter and 2Ib pulley to run 12.8 down in Texas.

I guess these trucks must vary a lot.
It really depends on a variety of things. Temp, Humidity, track prep... ect.


I think MM+FF was able to get a 13.2 out of a bone stock 99, or was it a 2000. So yeah those times are well within the realm of reality.

A dyno run would really tell you what was up with the truck.
 

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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 08:12 PM
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My buddy has a 99 and that freaken truck is fast for factory.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 08:30 PM
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I got a 12.9 with a 2lb and a chip in a 2000, with a warm truck.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 08:49 PM
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no, not really

No offence, but that is super slow for a stock truck. I ran a little faster with my 2000 at 5500 feet altitude.
No, actually, that's not really super slow at all. Stock 99's and 2000's mostly floated around the 14.0 mark. I also couldn't drive the truck worth a spit then (haha, still can't), but my 60's were like 2.1 max.

I know for a fact that my truck ran, super super rich from the factory. Even with a chip, which had your run of the mill program from JDM for my mods it still ran rich. Look at the air/fuel base line run when I went to JDM to get dyno tuned. Dropped off the chart!!!

 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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Hey...I didn't realize I would get this much feedback!

The truck has one of those sheetmetal boxes that boxes off the K&N Cone filter to only alow it to bring cool air into the Motor.

The Passes were on a somewhat cool night (between 35-45 degrees)

I made 4 runs within 2 1/2 hours.

1st Run: 14.0 @ 104 (Just rolled it out and then floored it to get used to it)

I saw the MPH so I figured if I could get to to 60' it would drasticly lower ET.

2nd Run: 13.3 @ 103

3rd Run: 13.2 @104

4th run: 13.1 @104

On the forth run the truck spun the tires a bit.

As far as experience goes...I have owned and raced several Cars so I am no stranger to the dragstrip. I was well aware that these trucks are quick...but when I ran the 104 MPH I was shocked to see that high of a trap speed!
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Re: no, not really

Originally posted by tallimeca
No, actually, that's not really super slow at all. Stock 99's and 2000's mostly floated around the 14.0 mark.
Still saying 14.2 is pretty slow for a stock truck, your a/f was most likley the reason.
Not ragging on you, some were fast some were slow most were in the 13.6 range.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 09:37 PM
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I beg to differ

My truck could have easily been in the 13.9 range with sub 2.0 60's but I beg to differ. Most stock 99 and 2000 trucks were not in the 13.6. 2001+ I'll agree with but you've been on here longer than me so you should know. The factory rated them as stock 14 second trucks, and that's what most of them were. Most of them didn't break the 100 mph mark stock. It wasn't untill 01 when the supposed extra 20 hp, more aggressive tuning and 3:73's put these truck in the more consistant mid 13's stock, breaking 100 mph. I did ****loads of research before i bought my truck and I'm pretty confident I know what I'm saying here. Agreed though, the trucks do vary alot and i'm sure there are some faster and some slower. My father's 03 maxed out at 13.6 stock. Another 03 at the track with the same 60' times was running 13.3 the same night.
 
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Old Apr 13, 2004 | 11:57 PM
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I agree with tallimeca; that's an extraordinary ET and a kind or high speed for a fairly stock 99-00. The 99-00s had 3.55s, and were more sensitive to the 60' than the later years. Even if you got it right (1.8-1.9) VERY few would run low 13s with just a filter and exhaust. In fact, most were in the low 13s with a 'chipnfilter', a combo that was good for .5 off your ET. Later, many upgraded to the 90mm MAF from the 01+, and when the pulleys became more common they were breaking into the mid to high 12s. (filter, 90mm MAF, chip, pulley).

I would say the most likely scenario is that the truck has a 90mm MAF and the PCM has been flashed. If the truck has 3.73 gears, then you basically have a 01+ with a chip and filter. It's possible that the blower has been ported, but the higher boost would give that away.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 03:01 AM
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I was the guy that brought him to Tommy. If I had to make an educated guess, I'd say it had some sort of programmer or reflash. But it is possible that it's just one of those perfect weather scenarios. I don't believe the gearing is any different than 3.55 (at least it didn't feel that way) and I also don't think the blower is ported. The whine sounds stock with the exception of being slightly louder from the CAI. Hey Herb, when are you coming over again? We need to go out and do a little street hunting
 
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by TurboRegal84
The Passes were on a somewhat cool night (between 35-45 degrees)
And that my friend was the only mod you needed. There isn't much else that will increase the performance of your truck more than cold air.
 
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Old Apr 14, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by RiddlerGT
I got a 12.9 with a 2lb and a chip in a 2000, with a warm truck.
I did too.

I was one of the fastest Lightning in New england in 99 and 00 and part of 01 until the really fast trucks started to come out.12.8@ 105.

Most were running low-mid 13s with chip/filter.

I remember back then and there were no fast trucks in 99 and 00.the freak trucks started appearing in 01 and up with 13.5s and 13.6s.I dont remember any 99/00 except 1 which got a 13.6 in 99.
13.8s were concidered a "fast" stock truck in the old days FYI
 
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