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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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They really need that HP. The Viper already has over 500HP(underrated)

The Dodge Four 12 will have in excess of 850 hp from a twin turbo V12 and will be the first car under 3 seconds 0-60.

Ford should enjoy their short moment in the sun.

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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 05:53 PM
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Originally posted by TrackBeast
The Dodge Four 12 will have in excess of 850 hp from a twin turbo V12 and will be the first car under 3 seconds 0-60.
You mean the car under the crystler name right? That things actually a quad turbo, and yeah it looks sick, if it actually ever makes production. Plus i doubt it'll be priced all that kindly. For the price, the gt40 is a great buy at MSRP.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by TrackBeast
They really need that HP. The Viper already has over 500HP(underrated)

The Dodge Four 12 will have in excess of 850 hp from a twin turbo V12 and will be the first car under 3 seconds 0-60.

Ford should enjoy their short moment in the sun.

TB
Oh dodge? you mean that other GERMAN car company eh?
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by TrackBeast
They really need that HP. The Viper already has over 500HP(underrated)

The Dodge Four 12 will have in excess of 850 hp from a twin turbo V12 and will be the first car under 3 seconds 0-60.

Ford should enjoy their short moment in the sun.

TB
The SRT Viper isn't that overrated. With rwhp numbers at 465 range it's not even close to what the GT is at. The Four 12 will not be making production. Better go back and re-read what DCX VP called it a dream machine. Not even a prototype.

It's a concept and Chrysler would have a hard time getting people to spend $400K+ on a manufactutuer that has never been tested in the super car relm. This is a Diamler car with the chrysler name on it. Even Motor trend after getting the scoop from DCX said there are NO plans to produce the car.

Lack of interest, means no production.....

The production GT is going to skin the Viper....I like how Motor trend tried to sneak their side by side comparison to the public. The elevation, track and cars were never raced at the same locations. The lower hp rated GT was put at a disadvantage at the start of their test. Look at the trap speed of the 500hp GT and tell me the Viper has a chance against a way underated 600hp+ GT.

DCX and GM have been thinking they are going against a 500hp car. "They got sucker punched" and the best thing is the GT can make more hp for future reference and programs.
 
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Old Mar 12, 2004 | 09:35 PM
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With HP ratings in the 600+ area, what is the GT using for a mass-air meter?

From this pictures, it looks like it only has one meter, so it must be one big one. Looks like a 90mm unit, I wonder if the electronics from the meter would be obtainable?

Hmmm...

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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 12:23 PM
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Yes Grinomite it is a quad turbo. Final decision hasn't been made yet but the car shown in Detroit was a fully functional prototype, not a concept car. Daimler Chrysler executives stated that it "will" be the first production car to break the 3 second barier and weighing in at 1310kg. That should be a hint that it's seriously being considered for production.

It really doesn't matter much if these cars are 200, 300 or 400 K because there will be some rich dude somewhere that will buy it especially if it's seen as the fastest. These cars are image car and the manufacturers really don't build them to make money on them. I visited the Viper plant and it's very obvious that there is no way that Chrysler could ever make money on that car.

I also remember reading on this board, not long ago, that the SRT-10 would never be produced. It was too expensive, too heavy, ugly... And voila!

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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by TrackBeast
Yes Grinomite it is a quad turbo. Final decision hasn't been made yet but the car shown in Detroit was a fully functional prototype, not a concept car. Daimler Chrysler executives stated that it "will" be the first production car to break the 3 second barier and weighing in at 1310kg. That should be a hint that it's seriously being considered for production.

It really doesn't matter much if these cars are 200, 300 or 400 K because there will be some rich dude somewhere that will buy it especially if it's seen as the fastest. These cars are image car and the manufacturers really don't build them to make money on them. I visited the Viper plant and it's very obvious that there is no way that Chrysler could ever make money on that car.

I also remember reading on this board, not long ago, that the SRT-10 would never be produced. It was too expensive, too heavy, ugly... And voila!

TB

Hmm quad turbo v-12, Interesting, wonder where they came up with the technology for that?
Oh Yeah, Mercedes Benz now owns Chrysler and has that technology.

wasn't there another car, perhaps a bugatti that had a quad turbo v-12? that kinda rings a bell (READ SARCASTICALLY)
 
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Old Mar 13, 2004 | 01:56 PM
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 06:11 PM
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Daimler Chrysler executives stated
Blah blah blah...

Bad news, D/C fan, but the car's patron saint, Bernhard something or another, got a promo back to the fatherland to run Mercedes. Take it to the bank, this dream car is dead in the water. He was allowed to build it because he's a true car nut, but any chance it had to see production went with him back to Mercedes. Ain't gonna happen.

 
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Blah blah blah...

Bad news, D/C fan, but the car's patron saint, Bernhard something or another, got a promo back to the fatherland to run Mercedes. Take it to the bank, this dream car is dead in the water. He was allowed to build it because he's a true car nut, but any chance it had to see production went with him back to Mercedes. Ain't gonna happen.

DC will never build that truck prototype with the Viper engine. It would be too expensive, the wheels are much too big, the truck is too heavy...blah blah. It will NEVER see production.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Ya know, I think this thread has gone way off topic.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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Re: Final Ford GT HP Numbers!

Originally posted by Big Man
Now, I know Ford tends to underrate their stuff lately but DAMN, if thats true then thats some serious underrating.

latley?
back in the day the under rated most cars
 
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Old Mar 15, 2004 | 07:26 PM
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DC will never build that truck prototype with the Viper engine. It would be too expensive, the wheels are much too big, the truck is too heavy...blah blah. It will NEVER see production.
Apples and oranges. Production engine. Production truck. Even Dodge could do that. Nothing about the dead concept is production. Its patron saint is long gone. Not gonna happen.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Originally posted by player19
Uhhh... sorry for all the posts but just noticed this too---

Weight Distribution (ft/rear):
43/57

Now how is that to drive? The front end just pushes the corners? Isn't that similiar to a 911?
That is without a driver or passenger. Presumably occupants would shift the weight bias more forward.

The fuel tank is centrally located, but may also bias towards the front when filled.

And a rearward weight distribution tends to create oversteer, not push.
 
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