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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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Changed my oil today, Is this normal??

I’m thinking it’s no problem, just a little condensation but wanted to check with you guys


I also have one of these installed.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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That is quite normal with parifin based oil.
Dinasour oil.

It is just the wax seperated from oil. Pennzoil used to be real bad for that. Most of your North East american oil wells are heavy with parafin.
The Texas crude oil is a worse quality.
The best oils come from the middle east and need the least refining.

There is nothing to worry about. It happens more with people that drive short distances and don't let there engines warm up.

What kind of oil are you using and what is the WT?
What are your driving habbits?
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Pennzoil, 5w-20 and I drive 6 miles to work every day. I change the oil every 3000 right on the money so I hope that helps me out some.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:02 PM
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Interesting, Just what I suspected. 6 miles really isn't enough to get things warmed up and circulating.
It really needs more time to heat and flash off moisture and other junk.
I think you will find if you were to take off the valve cover you won't see it anywhere else on the head because of the heat breaking it down. That filler neck is up and out of the way. The wax is condensing up ther where it is cooler.

Wipe a gob out with your finger and put it on some tin foil.
Then heat it up on low heat on the stove and watch it melt back into nice oily looking pennzoil.

Magic Huh!

I wouldn't get worried about it. Changing your oil a little sooner might help but it sure doesn't hurt anything other than your gray matter.

Check your local phone book. Most commercial oil distributors provide oil analysis for customers. They will give you a little plastic 4 OZ. pill bottle and charge you about $25 to test it. You will get a long list of data that won't mean much to you. But you also get information about metal content and some simple explanations.
They usually have a engineer there than can splain it to you.

Kinda like getting your blood tested at the doctors office.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Thanks dude!
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 10:11 PM
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If you don't want to go to a synthetic oil may I sugest Valvoline 5W-20

I have allways had good luck with Valvoline oil, and never had that happen to me, but I know some have seen that on their trucks.
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:06 PM
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Originally posted by EZGZ

Wipe a gob out with your finger and put it on some tin foil.
Then heat it up on low heat on the stove and watch it melt back into nice oily looking pennzoil.
Thats not a bad idea.. Because the OTHER reason for that colored oil is WATER in the oil. BUT all your oil would be that color ...

If you melt that stuff on tin foil and it starts to crackle and spit as you heat it it has water in it....
 
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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Thank god!!
There was some of that white waxy crap in the bottom of my oil seperator. I noticed it the last time I emptied the seperator. I didnt wnat to post about it because I was scared to find out there was somehting wrong with the L. LOL

Thank god its normal.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 04:51 AM
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That foam is caused because of your 6 mile trip, The engine never gets hot enough to burn all the gases and water in the crankcase. The Water/condensation is caused by the short heat cycles your motor is going thru. It has nothing to do with oil type, this will happen with Royal Purple or Cheap Walmart Crap. The foam is caused by water mixing with oil, I would suggest one of those engine cleaners to try and break down all the foam. The tops of your Valve covers and inside of timing cover look just as bad.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 12:38 PM
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Well, don't feel like "The Lone Ranger" . My 01 L with 62,000 daily driven miles on it started showing that 'froth' on the bottom of my cap and in the filler neck--just like yours--about 4 weeks ago.

Now here are the wierd details: Royal Purple 5W20 Synthetic since the 4,000 mile mark, 35 minute, high(70-85 mph) speed drive to work(and back for the same trip), 15-20 minute trips to lunch each week day at slow speeds, outside temps ranging(over the last 4 weeks) from 21 degrees F to 65 degrees F. Note; I am religious about warm-ups in that I start my L up and then drive off. I drive slowly with the OD off for the first 6 or 7 miles, allowing everything to warm up togeather. Then I hit the interstate and 70-85 mph.

So why does mine have 'froth'? The only 'change' I made right before I noticed it was to install a Canton aluminum-body, replaceable element, oil filter when previously changing my oil. The element has a synthetic filler in it.

Dan
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Is it possible that you lifted a head?

Looks like a lot more than some condensation water to me.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Silver_2000_!

If you melt that stuff on tin foil and it starts to crackle and spit as you heat it it has water in it....

if you heat the tin foil up in the microwave, you get a pretty cool lightning show... lol


 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 06:47 PM
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 08:52 PM
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i get the same thing in my cap. i drive 4 miles one way to work. those short trips probably the hardest thing on a engine. i try to change my oil every 2500 miles. looking for a beater so i dont have to drive it to work. save it for those long cruzes.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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I have the same thing on my 01L. But it's not my daily driver. Weather permitting(no snow on streets which we have now) I take it out once a week for about 10 miles - but that's not really enough to burn off all the combustion byproducts and condensed water vapor that collects - so I usually have a little glob like you where the oil filler cap was. But I never had any in my oil seperator. And as previously noted - doesn't make much difference what brand of oil you're using. Because I don't drive it that often, I change oil about every 500 miles.
 
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