Srt-10 = Hecho In Mexico
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Srt-10 = Hecho In Mexico
I picked up a Dodge brochure when I was at Sema a few weeks ago and to my great surprise this is what I saw:
Manufacturers performance estimate:
0-60...........................5.4sec
Standing 1/4 mile.......13.9sec @105mph
Top Speed...................150mph
Assembly location........Saltillo Mexico???
IMO, observations and statistics don't lie, any product manufactured in Mexico has significantly lower quality from any manufacturers. Just compare german built Volkswagons from Germany and those built in Puebla Mexico. Even the same vehicle will have significantly lower build quality. The same goes for the FORD FOCUS which is a great car in Europe but is plagued by problems in North America.
I would never, never buy a vehicle built in Mexico!
When you do see an SRT, tell the owner that he should have a CHIHUAHUA as a hood ornament.
Bottom line is the SRT 10 is fat at 5100lbs, has performance not much better than a stock lightning, doesn't handle as well and is manufactured in plants well known for sub-standard quality.
On top of that it has questionable looks.
Long live the real KING of trucks!
TB
"Viva la Republica de Mexico-but I wouldn't buy a car from there... "
Manufacturers performance estimate:
0-60...........................5.4sec
Standing 1/4 mile.......13.9sec @105mph
Top Speed...................150mph
Assembly location........Saltillo Mexico???
IMO, observations and statistics don't lie, any product manufactured in Mexico has significantly lower quality from any manufacturers. Just compare german built Volkswagons from Germany and those built in Puebla Mexico. Even the same vehicle will have significantly lower build quality. The same goes for the FORD FOCUS which is a great car in Europe but is plagued by problems in North America.
I would never, never buy a vehicle built in Mexico!
When you do see an SRT, tell the owner that he should have a CHIHUAHUA as a hood ornament.
Bottom line is the SRT 10 is fat at 5100lbs, has performance not much better than a stock lightning, doesn't handle as well and is manufactured in plants well known for sub-standard quality.
On top of that it has questionable looks.
Long live the real KING of trucks!
TB
"Viva la Republica de Mexico-but I wouldn't buy a car from there... "
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Sigh, what a weak attack on a vehicle. You can't generalize against an entire country because of one product that came out of that country. There are a great many vehicles that do come from Mexico, and individual parts.
FWIW, Mexican 5.0L engines are more sought after than American 5.0L ones
FWIW, Mexican 5.0L engines are more sought after than American 5.0L ones
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Mi compadre
Originally posted by Brian Baskin
Sigh, what a weak attack on a vehicle. You can't generalize against an entire country because of one product that came out of that country. There are a great many vehicles that do come from Mexico, and individual parts.
FWIW, Mexican 5.0L engines are more sought after than American 5.0L ones
Sigh, what a weak attack on a vehicle. You can't generalize against an entire country because of one product that came out of that country. There are a great many vehicles that do come from Mexico, and individual parts.
FWIW, Mexican 5.0L engines are more sought after than American 5.0L ones
TB
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Uh huh......look again at your statistics. Most of Ford Focus production is from S.E. Michigan, they are built in two plants, one in MI, one in Mexico. Only the hatchbacks are built in Mexico, all the sedans and wagons in MI. And the Euro Focus is completely different. Different engines, trans', interiors, etc. etc.
The VW's built in Mexico are the cheap little ones, the expensive stuff is still built in Germany.
Quality has less to do with where it is built and more to do with how it is designed and how it's assembly is managed and monitored. That can be crappy or fantastic anywhere in the world. Start taking apart your Lightning, and you'll see plenty of "Made in Mexico" stickers.
Randy
The VW's built in Mexico are the cheap little ones, the expensive stuff is still built in Germany.
Quality has less to do with where it is built and more to do with how it is designed and how it's assembly is managed and monitored. That can be crappy or fantastic anywhere in the world. Start taking apart your Lightning, and you'll see plenty of "Made in Mexico" stickers.
Randy
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Originally posted by Konig
My last f-150 (99) had leaf springs that were stamped with "Made in Mexico" real big in yellow paint.... arent a lot of VW "Bugs" built there?
My last f-150 (99) had leaf springs that were stamped with "Made in Mexico" real big in yellow paint.... arent a lot of VW "Bugs" built there?
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Re: Mi compadre
Originally posted by TrackBeast
Statistics on the number of defects per vehicle just don't lie. Mexican plants are the bottom of the barrel and that goes for G.M, Chrysler, Ford, Volks... Isn't it a coincidence that no Japanese manufacturers have established a plant in Mexico. Doesn't that say alot?
Statistics on the number of defects per vehicle just don't lie. Mexican plants are the bottom of the barrel and that goes for G.M, Chrysler, Ford, Volks... Isn't it a coincidence that no Japanese manufacturers have established a plant in Mexico. Doesn't that say alot?
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Originally posted by Brian Baskin
Sigh, what a weak attack on a vehicle. You can't generalize against an entire country because of one product that came out of that country. There are a great many vehicles that do come from Mexico, and individual parts.
FWIW, Mexican 5.0L engines are more sought after than American 5.0L ones
Sigh, what a weak attack on a vehicle. You can't generalize against an entire country because of one product that came out of that country. There are a great many vehicles that do come from Mexico, and individual parts.
FWIW, Mexican 5.0L engines are more sought after than American 5.0L ones
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Re: Re: Mi compadre
Originally posted by Brian Baskin
IMO, not really. Has it been determined what exactly the defects were or how they were caused. Were they caused by American-made parts that were just being assembled in Mexico, Mexican parts being assembled by Americans, or Mexican parts being assembled by Mexicans. If it was a defective part, then I don't see how assembly would play a huge part in it.
IMO, not really. Has it been determined what exactly the defects were or how they were caused. Were they caused by American-made parts that were just being assembled in Mexico, Mexican parts being assembled by Americans, or Mexican parts being assembled by Mexicans. If it was a defective part, then I don't see how assembly would play a huge part in it.
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Then again, is the defect caused by the assembly, or by the part itself? Assembly is very important, but if the parts themselves are defective, then even having the vehicle hand-built in Italy would still put out a lemon.
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Originally posted by Raoul
I saw a SRT 10 at the Taco Bell so I stopped and talked to the owner.
He said he was just there getting some warranty work done.
I saw a SRT 10 at the Taco Bell so I stopped and talked to the owner.
He said he was just there getting some warranty work done.
.Dan
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Originally posted by desertL2001
Uh huh......look again at your statistics. Most of Ford Focus production is from S.E. Michigan, they are built in two plants, one in MI, one in Mexico. Only the hatchbacks are built in Mexico, all the sedans and wagons in MI. And the Euro Focus is completely different. Different engines, trans', interiors, etc. etc.
The SVT focus is built in Mexico and has been plagued by problems. Ask any honest SVT dealer.
The VW's built in Mexico are the cheap little ones, the expensive stuff is still built in Germany.
Many low end VW product are in fact built in Europe with parts from the same desigh but sourced in Europe. The quality of these European built vehicles are significantly higher.
Quality has less to do with where it is built and more to do with how it is designed and how it's assembly is managed and monitored. That can be crappy or fantastic anywhere in the world. Start taking apart your Lightning, and you'll see plenty of "Made in Mexico" stickers.
I can agree with that statement but so far Mexico has not demonstrated that they can assemble a quality vehicle. Again, facts and statistics don't lie.
Randy
Uh huh......look again at your statistics. Most of Ford Focus production is from S.E. Michigan, they are built in two plants, one in MI, one in Mexico. Only the hatchbacks are built in Mexico, all the sedans and wagons in MI. And the Euro Focus is completely different. Different engines, trans', interiors, etc. etc.
The SVT focus is built in Mexico and has been plagued by problems. Ask any honest SVT dealer.
The VW's built in Mexico are the cheap little ones, the expensive stuff is still built in Germany.
Many low end VW product are in fact built in Europe with parts from the same desigh but sourced in Europe. The quality of these European built vehicles are significantly higher.
Quality has less to do with where it is built and more to do with how it is designed and how it's assembly is managed and monitored. That can be crappy or fantastic anywhere in the world. Start taking apart your Lightning, and you'll see plenty of "Made in Mexico" stickers.
I can agree with that statement but so far Mexico has not demonstrated that they can assemble a quality vehicle. Again, facts and statistics don't lie.
Randy