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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:27 AM
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Re: Weight.

Originally posted by 670hpCobra
Be well informed fellas, no lightning with JUST A CHIP and a pully change is goung to run faster that 13.00 to 13.30's.
period. You need slicks {wich most perple dont drive around town on} to even make it into the 12's..


12.85 @106.47 MPH
Long Island Motor Sports Park 10/27/02.
Open Filter-Chip-N-4lb Pulley.
NO OTHER MODS "AT ALL"
(AT THE TIME)
On F-1's
Using Standard 93 Octane Pump Gas


Why do so many people think this cant be done
We have Brothers here in the 12's WITH NO PULLEY
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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Re: Weight.

Originally posted by 670hpCobra
Be well informed fellas, no lightning with JUST A CHIP and a pully change is goung to run faster that 13.00 to 13.30's.
period. You need slicks {wich most perple dont drive around town on} to even make it into the 12's

You.can.lick.my.sack.

How many magazines did you have to read to bring us this UBER-SCARY information? Geez, go away as fast as you came.

You don't need slicks to get into the 12's unless you prep your track with KY jelly....



 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Come on fellas, don't take the bait.

670hpCobra is just a clueless troll.

Ignore him.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 10:55 AM
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there is no way in hell that a lightning with simple bolt ons will outrun a srt-10.. No way, no how..
There is no way a Lightning with bolt-ons could FAIL to beat an SRT-10 based on current numbers.
It is meant SOULY to be a QUICK TRUCK {it even comes with a 4.10 geared rear for gods sake}
What some people don't know about cars... The only reason the Dodge has 4:10's in the rear is because it has 22" tires. The Lightning has 18" tires and thus doesn't need the same kind of reduction to acheive the desired fnal drive ratio that the Dodge does. Furthermore, the smaller tires on the Lightning give it a smaller rotating mass and less unsprung weight.
But only 5.4 ltr of dis. in a 6,000lb truck? 33,000 dollars?
Try 4800 lbs and $29,500 which is what a lot of people have paid.
Hello? Its justa frigging f150 {16,000 dollar 6 cyl truck body} and stiff springs. Whats the xtra $ for, blower? 3,000 Wheels? 1,000
How about: 5.4 liter V8, Supercharger, Rims, Seats, high strength- purpose built- 4R100 transmission, 3:73 gears and limited slip differential?
Be well informed fellas, no lightning with JUST A CHIP and a pully change is goung to run faster that 13.00 to 13.30's.
So many people can debunk this that it isn't worth wasting time on it.
hell even the ecm is for the srt-10 only
The Lightning uses an ECM specific to it. It has extra inputs for things like intercooler temperature and is used only in the Lightning. Is it similar to the regular F150 computer? Sure. Then again the SRT-10 computer is probably similar to the Viper computer seeing as how they use the same engine and transmission.
I will pay an extra 15,000 for one{30,000 for lightning +15000 for the dodge} 100= more hp, 100= more ft lb tq, 6 speed man, and a suspension thats worth a damn
For 15k I could put in a built motor with a new supercharger and run in the 11's all day long. I would also be making 100 more HP and 200 lb/ft more torque than the Dodge. If you prefer the more expensive, slower vehicle, then by all means, go and buy it. Just don't place any bets at the track...

Please crawl back under the bridge you came from

-Don
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:39 AM
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You SRT Guys can just bring some cash to the Track

Jim
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 11:44 AM
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You SRT Guys can just bring some cash to the Track
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at 45K plus tt&l, they might have to owe you or something
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 01:10 PM
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I think we got one scared boys.
Unfortunatly very few of your comments are even remotely true. if you bring that thing my way. All i have to say is in refrence to your pride, "you might walk overhere butyou gon limp back" HAHA
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 02:14 PM
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Mr. 670hpCobra,

Your village called and they want their idiot back. So long.

 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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I have to wonder if there are no numbers posted because the L won?



Best 1\8th: 8.12 @86.18 with a 1.85' 60' on stock F1's.
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by LOCOSVT
My guess is that most of the corners had exit speeds around 20-25 mph...just high enough that the L wouldn't downshift. There IS a noticible spot between 25-40 mph in second gear where the L is really flat on acceleration. I know if I were a Dodge PR guy setting this up, I would try and give my vehicle every advantage I could. Since the Ram has a manual, it is more controllable on a autocross or road course- that's a no-brainer.

Good point, I was thinking the same about the corner exit speeds.

 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 03:56 PM
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Heres my email:

I wanted to comment on your article on the SRT-10 that you wrote about-specifically in comparison between the Dodge and the SVT Lightning. The whole reason behind an Eaton Roots style blower on the SVT Lightning is that there is no "spool up." Boost is instantaneous when the throttle is applied adequately. Surely since you are an automotive writer, you should know that that this term refers to turbos or centrifugal type superchargers and not Eaton Roots type blowers. The lag has to do with the automatic transmission. Also, in your piece on the SRT-10, you fail to compare the quarter mile times between the Lightning and the SRT-10. Bone stock Lightnings run in the mid 13 second range, while this SRT-10 with "2 more cylinders, 120 more horsepower, and 75 more lb ft of torque" runs in the "14 second bracket." Wow, over $10,000 more for this SRT-10 sport pickup that isn't as nimble around the corners and is slower through a quarter mile than the Lightning!!!!

Other than your erroneous information, I think you missed the real story here. Despite the fact that the Lightning has been out for 5 model years now, neither the Chevy Silverado SS nor the Dodge SRT-10 can really say they have unseated the Ford SVT Lightning as king of the sport truck domain. It is also important to remember that that both the Chevy and Dodge cost at least $10,000 more than the Ford that outperforms them.

Scott Wise
Ocala, FL

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point taken.

and i think there will be some very interesting side-by-side comparison tests scheduled in the coming weeks.

and, yes, the lightning is handicapped by its automatic transmission, though all of us driving that day said it felt more like the supercharger than the transmission that was holding us back.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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A 500 hp N/A engined vehicle, in the correct gear, is going to feel stronger at tip in than a supercharged vehicle with the same hp. Especially if the S/C vehicle has an automatic tranny. You don't go WOT in a corner unless you want a side trip into the grass. These guys just used the wrong words to describe what they felt from the L on the road course and made themselves look stupid.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:31 PM
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typical Dodge Pr work at best

There are going to be a bunch of pissed off, 45K $ truck owners

Got to go, and get my truck spooled up for the imitation Mack trucks...........LMAO
 
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Old Dec 2, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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Re: Weight.

Originally posted by 670hpCobra
Buy the way, someone posted about a weight diff?
A "stock" lightning is quicker if you ADD weight in the rear...
{old school style} Less tire spin...
Dont believe me?Try it, again, youll see...
Be well informed fellas, no lightning with JUST A CHIP and a pully change is goung to run faster that 13.00 to 13.30's.
period. You need slicks {wich most perple dont drive around town on} to even make it into the 12's..
How about hopping on kenne belle's site, or a svt only forum to see the top lightning times and vehicle ranking...
Hell, a stock 1993 z28 will outrun a stock lightning....
Personally, I see all the "potential" in the world in a Lightning.
But only 5.4 ltr of dis. in a 6,000lb truck? 33,000 dollars?
Hello? Its justa frigging f150 {16,000 dollar 6 cyl truck body} and stiff springs. Whats the xtra $ for, blower? 3,000 Wheels? 1,000
body kit {kind of} 500.. if we need to talk about overpriced, lets talk lighting.. Hell, at least on the dodge, EVERYTHING IS VEHICLE SPECIFID EXCEPT THE BODY ITSELF.... FULL SUSP, FULL BRAKES, FULL TRANS, hell even the ecm is for the srt-10 only.. No SHARED stuff there... I dont know fellsa, dodge is comming out strong...
I will pay an extra 15,000 for one{30,000 for lightning +15000 for the dodge} 100= more hp, 100= more ft lb tq, 6 speed man, and a suspension thats worth a damn... hell, you will spend that much in upgrades on your lightning and get power but at the cost of longevity and driveability.. trust me, I know, I ran 21psi {blowzilla}on my 2001... Everytime you drive it like that, its like rolling the dice...
Craps.....
Here's your hat....

 
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