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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 04:10 PM
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So if Whipple is making the SC for the GT I'd guess they are probably making the SC for the new Lightning also...
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A little birdy told me that when the Lightning comes back after its short upcoming absence, that it will indeed have the Whipple/ Works blower on it.
Lysholm makes the whipple, Lysholm makes the Ford GT SC.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by GTPlus
Lysholm makes the whipple, Lysholm makes the Ford GT SC.
A little birdy told me that when the Lightning comes back after its short upcoming absence, that it will indeed have the Whipple/ Works blower on it.
Whipple twin screw = Lysholm
Eaton twin screw = Lysholm
So that just leaves Kenne Bell...what are they part of Lysholm too
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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what's more interesting to me is that they claim to be using the existing Lightning intercooler. Maybe that means you could bolt on a set of '03 heads and the whipple to our existing block and get away with some mad power and no more popping plugs! I'm sure it would take some ECU tricks (and maybe a transplant) but it sure would be nice to have the VVT.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:49 PM
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Didn't Autorotor buy Lysholm? We now have 2, of almost the same supercharger, from the same company. Skip
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 06:59 PM
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I am not 100% sure what will come on the actual production Ford GT, but currently the prototypes are using Roots Eatons. Ford/Eaton did actually make a bunch of rear inlet M112s for the Gen 2 project, which were shelved in favor of the easier to package top inlet design. These blowers are what I've been told are being used on the prototype Ford GT engines. And it does make sense, because if you look closely at a Ford GT engine, you'll notice it has a 99/00 Lightning blower bolt pattern .
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Skip
Didn't Autorotor buy Lysholm? We now have 2, of almost the same supercharger, from the same company. Skip
Thats what was posted by KB (and others)

What really happened is Opcon AB, a gigantic "mother company", which owns tons of other smaller companys (one of which is Autorotor) released an "intent to purchase" lysholm.. The purchase may have gone through by now, but the release on the internet was just a "letter of intent" to purchase..

located here:
http://www.opconab.com/page.asp?ppId...=img0&lang=eng

Thats all that happened.

If you read that whole thing, it even says in there that LT (Lysholm Technologies) has an agreement to provide to Ford... Whipple blowers = Repackaged Lysholm...

btw - I also heard that the letter of intent stated that Lysholm will be operating Autorotor...

-Dale
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 07:38 PM
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Anyone that missed the information posted by Kenne Bell on twin screws here it is (long, but a good read):
http://www.modularfords.com/forums/s...enne+Bell+info
Kenne Bell has their own forum on modularfords and a lot of the posts are very informative.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2003 | 07:42 PM
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One quick question about the GT. They say no blower whine, how did they accomplish this? I thought it was a function of air being compressed and released from the rotors. I can't see how they would muffle this.
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 12:18 AM
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Originally posted by LightningTuner
I am not 100% sure what will come on the actual production Ford GT, but currently the prototypes are using Roots Eatons. Ford/Eaton did actually make a bunch of rear inlet M112s for the Gen 2 project, which were shelved in favor of the easier to package top inlet design. These blowers are what I've been told are being used on the prototype Ford GT engines. And it does make sense, because if you look closely at a Ford GT engine, you'll notice it has a 99/00 Lightning blower bolt pattern .

that would rock becuz I have a '99 and I could get one and slap it on the L
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 01:01 AM
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Guess who works in the plant where that engine is being made? Just so happen to have one under lock and key!



Suavy
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 12:11 PM
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you always tease us about this! LOL

I know I know.... just be patient........................................
 
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Old Dec 20, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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Originally posted by LightningTuner
I am not 100% sure what will come on the actual production Ford GT, but currently the prototypes are using Roots Eatons. Ford/Eaton did actually make a bunch of rear inlet M112s for the Gen 2 project, which were shelved in favor of the easier to package top inlet design. These blowers are what I've been told are being used on the prototype Ford GT engines. And it does make sense, because if you look closely at a Ford GT engine, you'll notice it has a 99/00 Lightning blower bolt pattern .
I laid my hands on the display prototype Ford GT engine at SEMA, and it had a twin screw. Additionally, the Nov '03 Hot Rod magazine has a complete writeup on the development of the GT engine, complete with a cutaway of the blower. It is unquestionably a twin screw. Dec '03 Road and Track (actual prototype): "Eaton Model 2300 Lysholm screw-type supercharger." Jan '04 Sports Car Illustrated (actual prototype): "the screw-type blower puts out 12 psi."

So let's put this to bed. It's an Eaton-sourced 2300 twin-screw putting out 12 psi.
 
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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton
"It's a version of Ford's modular V-8, sized at 5.4 liters and outfitted with four valves per cylinder, a Lysholm screw-type compressor (a first for supplier Eaton) and two fuel injectors per cylinder."

My understanding is that Eaton is not the manufacturer, but is working with another company (Autorotor? Lysholm?) on the new 5.4 GT/Lighting engine. Eaton has to see the handwriting on the wall -- go to twin screw or fade away. Colletti has more or less stated that roots is dead technology and the new SVT vehicles will be twin screws.
The twin screw(Lysholm) on the 06 L will be an Eaton.

The blower on Whipples site is for a non Lightning F150 5.4

PS: Holy cow! Im so YESTERDAY. Sorry for repeating the same info. :santa:
 

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Old Dec 21, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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i have a few real close freinds who will be building these things.

calightnin, production plans for an 06 aren't even scheduled so how do ya know what charger will be on them?
 
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