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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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They are the same.....worth 0 hp but 10 ftlbs of tq on the dyno....both cost 179.99, but carbon fibre is more and custom painted flames are more......
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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Originally posted by Dan_03Lightning
Pete, for all of us KB owners our KB warranty is out the window if we have an air flow system that only draws engine compartment air.

That is a pretty gay way to get around a warranty issue. I have an open filter on my truck and there is no proof that JLP, PSP, or anyone else's system works better. If there is then will someone post the proof.

I have a KB.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:07 PM
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I love the flames on the thunder pipe, but I can't wait to see JewishLightnings carbon kit - is it like Keiths?

I need pictures.................


D-Day

 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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Easterisland, agreed, I remember reading it in the literature they supply with the blower, unfortunatly I did not keep it.

 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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Originally posted by easterisland
That is a pretty gay way to get around a warranty issue. I have an open filter on my truck and there is no proof that JLP, PSP, or anyone else's system works better. If there is then will someone post the proof.

I have a KB.
Last wednesday night while merging onto I95 at bout 30 I hit it and noticed an extra pound if boost..also with my Helion hooked up I noticed an at least ambient air temp at the filter....with the open element I was reading 130 degrees and 5 degrees over ambient at 75 mph.....this PSP kit works I tell ya......
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:25 PM
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I don't know what the other supercharger companies offer as far as coverage, but the KB blows as far as what is covered.

Any lower pulley larger than a 8.27" with the stock 3.5" upper and 5500 rpm shifts will void the warranty. That means that basically anyone running a KB doesn't have a warranty unless KB wants to fix it out of the goodness of their heart.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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Cruising down the freeway with the open filter I usually read right at ambient or 2° below. That is a JDM open filter kit. You can see on some of my datalog autotap graphs that the intake air temp will rise a few degrees when going to WOT, but that has no effect upon the air exiting the intercooler.

If anyone with autotap would datalog and send me files I can post them.
 

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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by easterisland
I don't know what the other supercharger companies offer as far as coverage, but the KB blows as far as what is covered.

Any lower pulley larger than a 8.27" with the stock 3.5" upper and 5500 rpm shifts will void the warranty. That means that basically anyone running a KB doesn't have a warranty unless KB wants to fix it out of the goodness of their heart.
I wouldnt even worry about it....the KBs have been out long enough to prove their worth and durability....
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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well, so much for me worrying about the warranty, I have a 9.25 for my lower.

although I told KB this when my first one seized and they didn't hesitate to send me a new one..........

there's some light at the end of the tunnel.

 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 07:20 PM
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Paul said that he will be getting the full carbon fiber engine bay dress up soon. It's going to look killer with some billet under the hool as well.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 08:27 PM
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I don't think the JLP pipe comes painted with the flames?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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I don't think it's fair to bash the KB warranty without any facts to back it up.
I also agree with them as far as the air intake is concerned. The worst thing
you can do is to let your engine draw in the hot air from under the hood.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by easterisland
That is a pretty gay way to get around a warranty issue. I have an open filter on my truck and there is no proof that JLP, PSP, or anyone else's system works better. If there is then will someone post the proof.

I have a KB.
From the KB Web site:

What is the most ridiculous aftermarket product? Hands down, it's the "little intake fans" and the "throttle body spacers" with the bore grooves. Right there on the list has to be those "underhood exposed filters" that suck in 200° underhood air instead of ambient (70°-100° air from the fenderwell). 10° air temp rise is -1% HP. That's how dynos are calibrated for temperature changes. Does anyone really believe that all those OEM manufacturers designed expensive plastic inlet systems - for the last 20 years - that pull cool air from the fenderwell, hood or grill because they didn't have anything else to spend their money on?

It's hard to argue with the logic. But your point is well taken as to whether the bench racer logic translates into real temp differences at the intake. I seem to remember that PSP had collected some data, but I could be wrong.
 
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