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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Angry Is there something wrong with my truck??

ok, the raceway in jacksonville sucks for one, it is a dirt road to come in, with huge *** pudles..so when you get to the line you have nothing but mud on your tires..plus they never clean the track....it was a clear sat. night, about 75 degrese... my truck is a 2000 model with 14,000miles, it has a hard cover on the back and an aftermaket hood. I have a 2lb upper pulley, a diablo chip, a volant cold air intake, and a sift kit... i dont know how to post a picture on here but my time slip looks just like this....


Reaction .810
60 ft 2.580
330ft 6.575
ET @ 594 ft 9.129
1/8 ET 9.699
1/8 MPH 79.00

My best run has been a 9.4 @ 80, that was with a little better tread on the F1's, i tried letting some air out, so i was running about 25lbs in them. and it didnt make any diff.....i cant even hit WOT until about 25mph..or they will break loose! and i will turn sideways...its happend before during a hard launch attempt... even when i pin it to the floor right about 60 ft. they still slip trew the rest of 1st gear...im going to buy some slicks and take a trip to gainsville........BUT people are saying my truck isnt running like it should with those mods
 

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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 02:29 PM
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Whoa!

'SVT:

You, my friend, have some combination of problems that a bottle of laughing gas isn't going to fix. Much to the contrary.

It appears that you have two options, from what I can best make of your cryptic post...

OPTION A:

Take a deep breath, and provide this community with all of the relevant data necessary to return to you an expert opinion. The time you reported (high-14's/low-15's, 98-or-so MPH with a chip and pulley) is pathetic, but it is unreasonable to expect a diagnosis based on what you posted.

OPTION B:

Throw a bunch of parts at your obviously hurting ride, particularly nitrous oxide, blow it up (which will happen in short order), then go get your warranty denied and rant about it on the internet.

By the way, I recommend option A. Now give us a PILE of information about the track, your truck, the weather, your mods, your maintenance schedule, your 60-foot times, how your buds were running relative to established performance...

About to shake my head clear of my neck right now.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Oh Yeah...

...And extra credit will be given for each complete sentence (with punctuation, capitalization, and correct spelling) in your reply.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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Re: Oh Yeah...

Originally posted by Silver-Y2K-SVT
...And extra credit will be given for each complete sentence (with punctuation, capitalization, and correct spelling) in your reply.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by LeoGSVT
ok, the raceway in jacksonville sucks for one, it is a dirt road to come in, with huge *** pudles..so when you get to the line you have nothing but mud on your tires..plus they never clean the track....it was a clear sat. night, about 75 degrese... my truck is a 2000 model with 14,000miles, it has a hard cover on the back and an aftermaket hood. I have a 2lb upper pulley, a diablo chip, a volant cold air intake, and a sift kit... i dont know how to post a picture on here but my time slip looks just like this....


Reaction .810
60 ft 2.580
330ft 6.575
ET @ 594 ft 9.129
1/8 ET 9.699
1/8 MPH 79.00

My best run has been a 9.4 @ 80, that was with a little better tread on the F1's, i tried letting some air out, so i was running about 25lbs in them. and it didnt make any diff.....i cant even hit WOT until about 25mph..or they will break loose! and i will turn sideways...its happend before during a hard launch attempt... even when i pin it to the floor right about 60 ft. they still slip trew the rest of 1st gear...im going to buy some slicks and take a trip to gainsville.....
yOUR PROBLEMS ARE STARTING ON YOUR LAUNCH!

Those are 60' times for a Hyunday Elantra....................Either go to another track (if possible), or find a way to manually clean up those tires...........................you should AT WORST be in the 2.1 range..................that should net you high 8's in the 1/8th, which will equate to an average time of high 13's in the 1/4.

I still fear there may be additional problems, because your speed and time at that point would still not be adequate for the mods you have...............i'll let the real experts chime in

JC
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 04:41 PM
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HOLY HOLESHOT BATMAN!!

Traction is your trouble!!

 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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...More Ridiculous By The Second...

'SVT:

Now why in the name of all things holy did you edit out your reply about the sorry-azz track and your accordingly sorry-azz times? We were just beginning to make some headway, Sparky!

My analysis of the information that you put up, if only temporarily...

You seem to have a somewhat-modded 2000 model. I know nothing of the SPECIFICS of your mods (chip specifics, most notably), but I have a reasonably good idea of how you should run. Also, your altitude/weather information adds up to what I would call "good air", to say the least.

The totality of that is you should be able to run somewhere in the vicinity of 13.3/102, with a 60-foot in the 2.0XX range. This assumes you can drive and you have a decent track underneath you.

Seeing that you ran something like 15.0/98 with a 2.6 60-foot, you have some serious issues.

By way of comparison, my bone-stock 2000 model with 200 miles on the clock ran 14.2/97 in 95-degree/99% humidity air at around 1200 feet. This was with 60-foot times around 2.10 or so.

If your track is as sorry as you describe, which is VERY hard to believe, you need to RUN (not walk) away from the place and never return. Also, you need not ascribe ANY significance to ANY results from that place. I would not be alarmed, for example, if I ran a 16-second quarter towing a boat anchor uphill through a mud bog, for instance. Red herring, my friend.

If, for instance, a 2.6 60-foot is the best that a decent driver with a modded Lightning could pull at that particular track, explain to me WHY ANYONE would waste their time there? It just doesn't add up. I've pulled a 2.55-second 60-foot time in the wife's ML320, and that's with a stern electronic nanny and a throttle body that's not even directly connected to the gas pedal. Worse yet, I've pulled 2.4XX 60-footers with my pathetic, tired, FWD, 3.1 liter Grand Prix en route to a 17.2-second quarter.

Perhaps pounding the pedal to the floor and/or flogging your baby down a POS redneck track isn't such a good idea.

I also still think that you have something dreadfully wrong with your truck, whether it be deep in the bowels of your motor or resident in your mods is anyone's guess. I STRONGLY recommend getting your ride straight before you go throwing parts at it *****-nilly in a panic.

As for your indicated next two mods:

If you plan on running slicks, you need to get a driveshaft loop to avoid a gold medal in the pole-vault and some sort of traction device to keep the rear end in the thing. Total cost, including slicks/rims, perhaps 800 dollars - maybe more. It's not difficult to break into the 14's on F1's with everything else in order, so maybe you should straighten that out first.

As for nitrous, other than blowing up your apparently sick motor, you will also, with a little work, be able to get your 60-foot times up to the 3.0XX range. Nitrous oxide is not an effective traction improver.

Please take a deep breath and get things sorted before you destroy your (warranty-less) Lightning.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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what im trying to say is a put it to the floor after it runs threw 2nd gear or the tires will break loose!! there is nothing wrong with my truck, i'll spank almost everyone on the street! its just a traction issue...and ford gave me an extended warrenty with those mods on it, because ford installed them...its in the contract 4 years 60,000 miles...dude i didnt ask you to criticize me, and tell me my truck sucks, and i dont know how to drive...i just was just tellin you im having trouble launching....and if anyone has any slicks for sale to help that problem...we are all supposed to be friends and help each other out in this forum...not tell how rediculous my posts are....
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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how much tread do your tires have?
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:25 PM
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not much tread left...ide say another 2 or 3,000 miles and there done....ive taken it to the track twice, burnouts, and ****ty 60 ft times (due to spinning) ive worn them down a little....
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:29 PM
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All Rightie Then...

Slicks and nitrous it is, then. That's the ticket.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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Re: All Rightie Then...

Originally posted by Silver-Y2K-SVT
Slicks and nitrous it is, then. That's the ticket.
Dude, whats up your ***? every post on here has had this condensending attitute, and realistically, you've provided him with no help.

Ok i would say your first problem is probably tires, breaking loose at 25 mph doesnt make too much sense with the mods your making. Obviuosly it seems like the track also has some issues so it may fare you well to consider another track, a full quarter mile track would be nice if you can find it. Now slicks will help your launch no matter what, but it might serve your interests to just get a new set of tires (nitto drs ) just to solve two problems with one stone. With only 14k on the odo i doubt you have any seriuos problems it seems like you just cant put the power to the floor. Seen a dyno lately? Might be a good idea.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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thank you!!! grinomyte is an actual help! i dont know why Y2k Svt or whatever it is was being like that, maybe he had a bad day! yeah, some sort of new tires would be a nice addition, and then im for sure getting a cat back system.. and possibly hooking up the Nos 50 or 75 shot, with slicks a good high 12 sec pass should be in order...
 
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Old Jul 21, 2003 | 05:51 PM
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Hmmmm...

Where have I heard those suggestions (different track, forget the slicks) recently?

Admittedly, the tone was annoying, but the message was clear, no?
 
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