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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 09:57 PM
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Just seen a works 140 powered Lightning at REM....at half throttle tip in , the boost gauge went to 14#s and collapsed the K&N conicle air filter...the beast within is about to arise from REMs dungeon.....
 

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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:04 PM
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It collapsed the air filter? Thats something I would have to see to believe. I guess anythings possible. Lets see some pics of this aforementioned beast.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Re: works 140

Originally posted by promodlightning
Just seen a works 140 powered Lightning at REM....at half throttle tip in , the boost gauge went to 14#s and collapsed the K&N conicle air filter...the beast within is about to arise from REMs dungeon.....
I'm sure the KB could do that, if they weren't so busy using bazooka tubes and such.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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My eaton used to do the same on the dyno. 14psi is nothing, wait until you see a 26psi dyno pull.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2003 | 10:24 PM
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Pain is coming....
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 12:16 AM
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Im telling you this 140 sounds nasty, I think boost is at 24#, but I dont want to speculate till some pulls are made....my L will be going up next, but with KB power.....who will make more power? I think, HP wise the 140 will take it, but in the torque dept the KB will win......
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 12:20 AM
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Let the commencement of "KB" vs the "Works 140" WAR begin.....
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Give me power or give me DEATH......
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 12:25 AM
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Originally posted by promodlightning
Im telling you this 140 sounds nasty, I think boost is at 24#, but I dont want to speculate till some pulls are made....my L will be going up next, but with KB power.....who will make more power? I think, HP wise the 140 will take it, but in the torque dept the KB will win......
What's this info based on?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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Let's see some track results..

Dynos walk (SAE corrected), The track talks...
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Im basing my opinion on the fact that the 140 has a lot bigger and more efficient upper plenum than a KB....and the fact that the works is a rear feed...the KB, with a definate inlet restriction(even with a ported upper), will eventually run out of cool air and just start building more and more torque....this is just my opinion...
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:24 PM
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Horsepower is a function of torque. Therefore when horsepower drops, torque drops, and vice versa.

So a restriction means less hp and torque.

Steve
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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Originally posted by Calightnin
Horsepower is a function of torque. Therefore when horsepower drops, torque drops, and vice versa.

So a restriction means less hp and torque.

Steve
funny, doesnt a torque line drop as the hp rises on most dynoes?
I think theres a possibilty that what he says makes sense, there are mods and such out ther that produce more torque but reduce hp, and vice versa.
 
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Old Jul 12, 2003 | 11:41 PM
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hp = torque x rpm, divided by 5250

300 ft lbs at 2000 rpm makes 114 hp. But it only takes 100 ft lbs at 6000 rpm to make 114 hp. That's three times less torque, because horsepower is a mathematical FUNCTION of torque. Torque and horsepower are linked and if you reduce one, you reduce the other, at that same rpm point. You cannot reduce horsepower and increase torque at the same rpm.

You CAN however have lots of low rpm torque and not much high rpm power, or vice versa. But you can't have lots of high rpm torque and not much high rpm power. At every rpm, horsepower is torque times rpm divided by 5250 or 5252, depending on your religion.

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Old Jul 13, 2003 | 03:28 AM
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Calightning is right on the money. When people talk about a "torquey" engine, they mean one that pulls down low. But at the end of the day, horsepower is the only thing that matters.

Torque = force. HP = force x time = work.
 
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