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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:41 PM
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Yes, because Kenne Bell knows everything theres to know about nitrous, not to mention, they feel cams arent a good thing for a lightning either with a blower

Umm, Kenne Bell is not a Lightning expert and no where near the expertise of nitrous companies and Lightning tuners.

BTW. A Boost A Pump is a bandaid for a poor fuel system. It jacks the stock pumps voltage up and out of spec. Where do you think the increased flowraste comes from? How is this good for the pumps? Its not.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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Originally posted by jkbrand


Flying ****,

I agree with most everying you're offering in the thread except the location of where the nitrous is "best" introduced. (I use the nitrous plate only because I didn't want to drill into the intake or the boot.) When nitrous is released from the bottle, it transforms from its liquid state to a gas. Once it's in the line it's gaseous, and it won't atomize any further.

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Jeff, have you tried relocating the nozzle out of the plate and further down towards the maf? Try it.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:43 PM
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I never said Kenne Bell were the "Experts"

Like I said ....everyone has their opinions
 

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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:46 PM
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And KB would be the last place i gained my opinion or facts from, esp concerning Nitrous systems.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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Originally posted by Flying ****
And KB would be the last thing i gained my opinion or facts from, esp concerning Nitrous systems.
My opinion is "my" opinion....I found KB shares the same.

Thats why we are all "individuals" and it is nice to "Agree to Disagee" sometimes, it would be a boring world if we were all the same.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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LMAO. Ok..
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:03 PM
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Sorry if I started a "nitrous war."

I'm going with a dry Zex kit. I feel our fuel systems are more than adequate for a small dry shot (up to 100 easily but I'm only doing a 50 or 75). I won't be using a plate either. I'll be drilling or having some plate fabbed up so it goes after the MAF.

Now how about let's let the vendors argue about prices so I can get the lowest one!
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Originally posted by Flying ****
Jeff, have you tried relocating the nozzle out of the plate and further down towards the maf? Try it.
Our initial setup had the nitrous going in right after the MAF. It worked great too. But then Sal introduced his TB plate, and for one reason or another we ended up with one. And now it's been my experiance that the plate is better than down lower in the intake. It doesn't make any more power, but when the nitrous comes on it will hit harder and sooner.

It's also a matter of opinion of which is safer to run, Wet vs Dry. But all us HALO guys that run nitrous, for some odd reason use a wet shot.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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Originally posted by Six Spd Z28
My opinion is "my" opinion....I found KB shares the same.
Maybe I'm confused about what you and KB "share" in the way of an opinion. You did say earlier:

Originally posted by Six Spd Z28
Nitrous is a great way to go fast, you really can go wrong with wet or dry
Did you mean "can't go wrong"?
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:38 PM
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I originally Planned on the Zex Dry system too, and was impressed with the controll box and ease of installation.
And I agree on MOST situations a Dry system is the way to go.
HOWEVER Tons of people wrote me privatley and gave many reasons why wet is better. Basically due to the Fact we have Superchargers is the most important factor in going with a wet system. What I didn't like about a Dry System is the fact that I would have to rely on our SUB STANDARD Fuel System. Yes I say SUB STANDARD. Yes I agree that it may be over engineered, but It's also pretty much maxed out for a Lightning's HP and Fuel needs. It's also the same Fuel Filter Ford using in a regular 200 and something HP F-150. My fuel filter has already clogged and melted 3 plugs when my truck was weeks old and not nearly Modded to where it is now. I rather take raw Fuel from the Fuel Rails and allow Zex to regulate it than rely on the STOCK injector, fuel filter, and pumps to send more through, they can't keep up now SOMETIMES.
Tell me everyone of you hasn't read at least 50 -100 post of a L showing a lean bank due to a clogged injector , pump, or filter?
With a dry system that would be DEATH to your Motor while spraying Juice, but with a wet system you'd still be squirting raw fuel DIRECTLY IN and MAYBE it would save the Motor.


That Maybe was enough for me to get Wet and hook one fuel line up from the Zex Box to the fuel rail


Lets face it, our fuel system was designed for a 380 HP 8lb boost motor, Not one that has 16 lbs of boost (like mine) and has way more HP than stock, maybe 100- 150 HP more over stock.
Ya I know your all saying what 150 HP
Look at the facts NOT A DYNO
Stock is 380
4lb Lower pulleys are good for up to 20 HP
Uppers for maybe up to 10 HP
A good Forced Cold Air Induction System another 10-20 HP
A good chip AT LEAST 35 HP
and then 75 HP of juice on top of that.
PLENTY OF US HAVE 500 HP NOW NOT THE 380 it came with
Ok maybe not at the rear wheels, but the 380 wasn't either and thats what our fuel system was designed for.

I think both Zex Systems are good especially because they're electronically operated and not mechanically operated,
but IMO, I'd go WET.

Took a full 8/10th's of my ET'S with only a 4lb pulley,
I couldn't ask for more
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 02:50 PM
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The point im trying to make is, youre tapping fuel directly off the rail. You are still starving your injectors if you run lean. The only way around this is a Y block before the fuel rail. Taking fuel before the regulator is safer then taking fuel off the rail. Zex has a lot more safety built into their unit then most systems. However, its a dry setup for me, i feel safer with it.

Jeff, thanks for the info btw.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:01 PM
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Originally posted by Flying ****
The point im trying to make is, youre tapping fuel directly off the rail. You are still starving your injectors if you run lean. .
Your right ****,
Sorry, I never said I was an expert
Just very opinionated
I wanted Dry, and lots talked me out of it.
Me and Mike email once in a while,
I told him the other day I think the Dry is just as save,
It's just our L is sooooooooo unforgiving when it goes lean,
that I figured spraying raw fuel was safer.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Originally posted by Flying ****
Jeff, have you tried relocating the nozzle out of the plate and further down towards the maf? Try it.
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No, because that would require putting it in the boot, and I don't want a hole there or in the intake.

Do you have any empirical evidence supporting your contention that locating it nearer the MAF produces better results? If so, I'd be surprised, but I'm always open
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:11 PM
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Someone i know has it setup that way. Seems to work out quite nice for them. I was just wondering if you tried it yet is all.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2003 | 03:19 PM
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Anyone make or wanna make a nitrous plate for behind the MAF?
 
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