2003 Rods????
DrTriton quote:
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The same rods have been used from '99 to present.
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"Most people" are wrong. The rods never changed.
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The same rods have been used from '99 to present.
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Originally posted by Hilander
Thats not what most people say including Sal from PSP. Rodswere supposed to come from a differant vender from 2001-2002.
Thats not what most people say including Sal from PSP. Rodswere supposed to come from a differant vender from 2001-2002.
"Most people" are wrong. The rods never changed
The last I heard was that Sal along with many others had info regarding the rods being supplied from a differant vendor.
Seems strange that not many rod problems were mentioned untill the 2001 year, even then the rod spitting seemed to be mainly 2001 and up trucks.
Not flaming, just looking for some concrete info either way.
Maybe They just paid attention and tightened them in 99/00. Common sence would tell you Corp America cuts more and more each yr,
which means less people to do more work.
Add the fact that no one makes the money they need, the medical system now sucks and cost most of us more money than ever, and what you end up with is mad pissed off under paid overworked people. Who rush to make their Quota.
We all know about the standard problems on a Brand New Lighting. Most are due to something that wasn't tightened or glued or clipped, etc... There is no way Ford is double checking anything anymore, unless they're using Blind People.
And as a result
THIS HAPPENS
Quoted by CajunCobra
Truck: 2002 Harley-Davidson
This engine was asembled incorrectly at the factory. 2 main bolts fell out and a third was unscrewed about 1 inch. Properly torqued and stretched main bolts do not fall out. Ford had written this failure off as a "Chip caused Faiulure" without even looking at the engine. After threatening to sue, Ford Rep decided he should look into the engine and prove that the chip caused the failure, What a surprise to find the main bolts in the bottom of the oil pan. This truck has been in the shop since Dec. 14, 2002, sitting there without Ford even looking at the engine. I have stated all along that a chip cannot cause an engine to break a rod. Ford would have written this off and gone their merry way, had I not made enough waves to force them to look at the engine. I thank Anthony Gray, of Gray Ford in DeRidder, La, without his help, Ford would never have looked into this engine without a law suit..
DT
This is where a main bolt should reside, or maybe it did, at one time.

These 2 main bolts found in the oil pan show excellent threads, no metal in the threads, why is that significant, it shows that the bolts backed out, not stripped.

This shows a thrid main bolt backing out.
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Originally posted by Flying ****
Theres a member of my club with a 2002 L. His engine lasted exactly 2000 milles.
He vented his block going from a 4# to a 6#...
Guess what? His rod bolts were backing out.. 2 were already in the pan. Dont know if Ford is covering it.
This happened in January. What was the build date of the guys harley up above Rob?
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BTW,
I juice mine w/ 6lbs of Pulley and drive it like I stole it.
My shift points are as hi as 6k, and I have no problems
which means less people to do more work.
Add the fact that no one makes the money they need, the medical system now sucks and cost most of us more money than ever, and what you end up with is mad pissed off under paid overworked people. Who rush to make their Quota.
We all know about the standard problems on a Brand New Lighting. Most are due to something that wasn't tightened or glued or clipped, etc... There is no way Ford is double checking anything anymore, unless they're using Blind People.
And as a result
THIS HAPPENS
Quoted by CajunCobra
Truck: 2002 Harley-Davidson
This engine was asembled incorrectly at the factory. 2 main bolts fell out and a third was unscrewed about 1 inch. Properly torqued and stretched main bolts do not fall out. Ford had written this failure off as a "Chip caused Faiulure" without even looking at the engine. After threatening to sue, Ford Rep decided he should look into the engine and prove that the chip caused the failure, What a surprise to find the main bolts in the bottom of the oil pan. This truck has been in the shop since Dec. 14, 2002, sitting there without Ford even looking at the engine. I have stated all along that a chip cannot cause an engine to break a rod. Ford would have written this off and gone their merry way, had I not made enough waves to force them to look at the engine. I thank Anthony Gray, of Gray Ford in DeRidder, La, without his help, Ford would never have looked into this engine without a law suit..
DT
This is where a main bolt should reside, or maybe it did, at one time.

These 2 main bolts found in the oil pan show excellent threads, no metal in the threads, why is that significant, it shows that the bolts backed out, not stripped.

This shows a thrid main bolt backing out.
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Originally posted by Flying ****
Theres a member of my club with a 2002 L. His engine lasted exactly 2000 milles.
He vented his block going from a 4# to a 6#...
Guess what? His rod bolts were backing out.. 2 were already in the pan. Dont know if Ford is covering it.
This happened in January. What was the build date of the guys harley up above Rob?
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BTW,
I juice mine w/ 6lbs of Pulley and drive it like I stole it.
My shift points are as hi as 6k, and I have no problems
Yes JDM has said many times the 03 blocks have more surface to seal the heads better. He's also mentioned the Rods seem to be better.
The Million dollar question is ?
How many of Our Motors went because the Main Bolts were loose
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The Million dollar question is ?
How many of Our Motors went because the Main Bolts were loose
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The Million dollar question is ?
How many of Our Motors went because the Main Bolts were loose
How many of Our Motors went because the Main Bolts were loose
Originally posted by Hilander
Good info Rob, guess the rod tightner dude was stronger back in 99/00 when he was younger lol
Good info Rob, guess the rod tightner dude was stronger back in 99/00 when he was younger lol
Originally posted by rscoleman
It would be easy to tell if the motor let go from loose main bolts once the engine is disassembled. I think thats an isolated problem, how many 5.4's are on the road?
It would be easy to tell if the motor let go from loose main bolts once the engine is disassembled. I think thats an isolated problem, how many 5.4's are on the road?
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Originally posted by Tim Skelton
No, he actually got replaced. He was promoted to Chief of Plug Tightening.
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Did you read Don's post this morning where he was helping a Brother out and found ALL 8 PLUGS LOSE
****ing Ford does it again



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