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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:34 PM
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Originally posted by Ruslow
Eibachs are a progressive coil.I think they start at 400 and go up to 800.but the corner weight of the truck is 1300+ so a 400 lbs spring is already at a disadvatage since it is now almost collapsing the coils down to where the stiffer ones are.A linear coil will do that to but if selected properly not as bad.Hotchkiss uses around 960 for there front coils and FRPP use around 1000.I use anything from 900 to over 1800 so the choise is yours.Stan
so do those numbers represent how stiff the ride quality is?? or how does that work, i dont really get it..
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 01:48 PM
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Yes it represents the quality of the ride but not of the handling as such.Sway bars were developed because of the softer springs if you run an rock hard spring the vehicle won't lean so no bar is required but do to the roads if the spring is that hard you will bounce over bumps which is not good for handling or safety so the sway bar was developed.So you need to decide what type of ride you want and the roads in your area will dictate that.As will what you plan on doing with the truck,ie.open track drag or aggressive street driving.Springs are as individual as colors are on our trucks what works for someone else might not for you.STan
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Stan, are you sure the FRPP coils are rated that high? I was under the impression they were the softest of the aftermarket springs. Somewhere in the archives I found the following rates:

Stock, 650 (667lbs?)
Belltech coils, 1000
Hotchkis coils, 950
Eibachs, start at 342lbs and finish at 942.

I haven't seen any posted figures for the FRPP coils until your post though. ~1000 sounds surprising, I thought they'd be in the 700 range.
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 02:25 PM
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so, the higher the rating the stiffer the ride...

well, i live in michigan, and our roads are the worse roads in america... pot holes, dirt road galore boy.

so i would probably try like 1000?? how much would they cost, and it would still give me a 1' drop right?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 03:03 PM
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I would also like a price on a set that would drop my truck one inch....

I wonder how much some new adjustable shocks are....
 

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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Somewhere that is what I saw posted but can not say that that is a reliable source.Just what I read.Stan
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 07:53 PM
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Question spring rate

Ruslow,
I am trying to settle an arguement does cutting a coil spring
and thus shortning the total length also stiffen it?
 
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Old Jun 3, 2003 | 09:07 PM
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FWIW I have a call into Ground Force about their FRPP spring rate.. will post their response as soon as I hear back.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 10:02 AM
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A little late here, but....

The GroundForce/FRPP spring is just over 700 # per inch per side. I have confirmed this with Ground Force a while back.
 
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Old Jun 4, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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Thanks Loosebolt, Ground Force just confirmed the same figure over the phone. Hmmm, sorry to hijack this thread.... but now that we know the FRPP coils are about as "soft" as the stock springs, I wonder if having the same rate while chopping 1.5" of travel is... "safe" or ideal?
 
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Old Jun 5, 2003 | 01:23 AM
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Re: spring rate

Originally posted by OH-MAN
Ruslow,
I am trying to settle an arguement does cutting a coil spring
and thus shortning the total length also stiffen it?
Yes, for linear springs. By how much, I'm not sure though. I also don't know what cutting a coil to a progressive spring would do.

It was discussed on here a long time about belltech springs.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2003 | 11:37 PM
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thanks captain
for taking the time to respond to
my question.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2003 | 02:11 AM
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Originally posted by OH-MAN
thanks captain
for taking the time to respond to
my question.
Is that a haiku?
 
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